Coby, I wanted to touch base regarding this issue with particular emphasis on your question of a seperate professional organization to point out that there is fact is a professional organization specific to VRT (outside of AER and the VRT division), the Mid-America Conference of Rehabilitation Teachers. The organization has been in existance since the 1930's in various forms. With that being said, I encourage all who may be unfamiliar with MACRT to look into our organization. Regarding your other questions, I feel it is vital that we as a profession do all we can to promote our profession, which includes networking and reaching out to the other professions to promotoe what is that we as VRTs do, and how we differ from the other areas, but also how we complement them. Regarding AER or ACVREP in working to develop additional programs, this often takes more than simply these organizations, as it becomes an issue at each university individually to either keep a program up and running, as so many universities focus strictly on the graduation number, which as a low incidence disability area will nearly always be below that of general disability areas (Special Education and OT for example), but also it takes support from interested stakeholders from all areas to support programs (especially in the case of new development). Thank you, Ian Shadrick President Mid-America Conference of Rehabilitation Teachers Ian Shadrick M.A.,M.A., CVRT, CRC Instructor Blindness & Low Vision and Orientation & Mobility Programs Department of Counseling, Leadership, and Special Education Missouri State University 901 S. National Ave. Springfield, MO 65897 Office: PCOB 114 Phone: 417.836.8466 Fax: 417.836.5997 ianshadrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________________ From: visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Coby Livingstone [coby.livingstone@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:14 PM To: B.J. LeJeune Cc: l.mowerson@xxxxxxxxxxx; visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx; lag324@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Sharon Hudson Subject: [visionrehabtherapist] Re: TVIs as VRTs BJ Thank you for your insight and comments regarding OT and VRT. I'm wondering what the next step should be for the CVRT. Should we advocate for our own professional organization...now? Should we advocate and agitate AERBVI and ACVREP for help: 1. In increasing the recognition of CVRT by other professionals, 2. To increase the number and quality of training programs, 3. To collaborate effectively with COMS, CLVT, TVI, OT, Vocational Counselors in Vision Rehab, Consumer Groups (NFB certification) etc. Coby Livingstone On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:59 AM, B.J. LeJeune <BJLejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:BJLejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hi Coby, It is good to meet you and learn of the AERBVI Licensure Task Force. With the shortage of VRTs I think licensure in many places will be unrealistic and perhaps a little premature. Will a state go through the expense and processes necessary to set up a licensure program when they only have 5-10-20 certified professionals in the state? I agree that licensure is probably a very positive thing in states that have a good number of professionals, but we need to get our numbers up first. Requiring another "hoop" for people to go through to practice doesn't make sense as we try to recruit people into the field and encourage certification. If certification is required to be licensed, there will be a lot of states that will be in big trouble because many of their agency trained staff are not certified. Do we think these practitioners are a danger to the clients they serve? It seems like that would be part of the issue (see definition below). We also work under many different titles - braille teacher, independent living specialist, rehabilitation teacher, assistive technology instructor, Occupational Therapists, etc. We need to do some work within our profession before we are ready for licensure. Just my opinion. See this defining of licensure from Wikipedia (I know that is not the best source but I think they state it well). Licensure means a restricted practice requiring a license<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License>, which gives a "permission to practice." Such licenses are usually issued in order to regulate some activity that is deemed to be dangerous or a threat to the person or the public or which involves a high level of specialized skill. The danger and skill elements inspire governments not to allow a free-for-all, but to regulate the activity, and licensing is a well-established and convenient method of regulation. Licensing includes such things as pilot and driving licenses, licenses to play professional sports, etc. In the case of certain occupations and professions, licensing is often granted through a professional body<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_body> or a licensing board composed of advanced practitioners who oversee the applications for licenses. This often involves accredited training and examinations, but varies a great deal for different activities and in different countries. Practicing without a license<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practicing_without_a_license> may carry civil or criminal penalties. Best wishes, BJ B. J. LeJeune, M.Ed., CRC, CVRT NRTC on Blindness and Low Vision Mississippi State University P. O. Box 6189 Mississippi State, Ms 39762 bjlejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bjlejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 662-325-2694<tel:662-325-2694> FAX 662-325-8989<tel:662-325-8989> >>> Coby Livingstone >>> <coby.livingstone@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:coby.livingstone@xxxxxxxxx>> 9/28/2013 >>> 7:07 AM >>> Good Morning AERBVI has a Licensure Task Force, convened by the Board earlier this year. Would state licensure and certification of VRT's assist in maintaining and developing the profession of VRT? Vision Rehabilitation Teachers (Therapists) are the foundation of Vision Rehabilitation since the very beginning! How successful are OT's, with no training in Vision Rehabilitation Frame of Reference, in school systems and agencies? Are university Training programs addressing this issue with classes, research or other mechanisms? Coby Livingstone, OTR/L, CVRT Low Vision Solutions for Adults On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:57 PM, <l.mowerson@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:l.mowerson@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Again Not to harp on the issue, it is not duct the fact that OT's can bill medicaid but the fact that OTs training programs and tearily graduates out number VRTs 100 to 1! The sheer percentage of available personnel in VRT just does not exist. Lisa-Anne *********************************** To view archives, edit list settings, subscribe or unsubscribe from list: www.freelists.org/list/visionrehabtherapist Administrator e-mail: dietz1112@xxxxxxxxx