Unfortunately, until we are able to meet the demand and need for trained VRT's let alone CVRT's other similar professions will be hired to do the best the can. Can any one name the number of VRT training programs in the US? how many yearly graduates are there and then look at how many job openings exist. We need to create a professional training ladder to encourage younger professionals , such as undergraduate professionals to enter our field like Occupational therapy aids or licensed nurses which then support the great professions of OT and nursing. Sadly this problem has only seemed to grow worse in my more than 20 years in the profession. I have one of the last undergraduate degrees in the field of blindness from a time when there were 12 university training program for VRT. Now we have no undergraduate truing programs and less than5? training programs? How can we fault schools and agencies for hiring other professions that might be able to fill the gap? Lisa-Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx> To: visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:57:15 PM Subject: [visionrehabtherapist] TVIs as VRTs Hello everyone, This is kind of on the similar lines as the last discussion on here. I have heard rumors that possibly some agencies are hiring TVIs as VRTs. These TVIs have not had any ADL training or any discussions of adult learning. But they are expected to handle a standard VRT case load which is majority Older Americans who are blind. I am a little concerned. I am not sure how much detail I can give regarding the situation, but as a VRT with a masters and a TVI background I am concerned. Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A. CVRT and Ludden black Labrador Guide Dog. The cure for anything is salt water -- sweat, tears, or the sea. -Isak Dinesen (pen name of Karen Blixen), author (1885-1962)