[vipaudioaccess] Re: Hsc sets with sonar

  • From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 10:31:51 -0500

true. The only DAW that intentionally colors things that I can think of is Harison Mix Bus. In other cases, it's a matter of how accurate their math is. Samplitude is extremely accurate, as is newer ProTools. I presume Reaper is too, since the developer of Reaper got many ideas from Samplitude.


At 06:03 AM 2/9/2017, you wrote:

I can see many people seem to think this, but the way I see it, a DAW is essentially a really fancy calculator. If you put in 4+4 into your calculator, and I put in 4+4 to mine, they should both come out to 8, no matter who made them. If they don't, something is horribly wrong with one of them. I also think that coloring the audio, which I would think would have to be intensional, is a really bad idea. What if you don't want the color a DAW provides, assuming it does provide a color? Well then you're basically screwed out of using that DAW. It should be up to the producer to color the audio the way they want it. That's what things like ozone, neutron, etc are for. I would still be interested in a NULL test, as, from what I've read, something as simple as having a different default panning law can have a drastic difference on the quality or "color" of the audio. I might have to do this myself to find out.

-Michael.





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Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Hsc sets with sonar

Dear Michael,

You could think that the only thing that matters to sound quality is
your sound card. I used to think this to.

But the difference between DAWs becomes more obvious with the number of
tracks in your project. Each DAW seems to have its own way of summing
tracks in the digital domain.

Also, Samplitude has much better built-in Equalisers and dynamic
processing Than the version of sonar we can use had. And, Samplitude has
something I love which is automatic cross fade each time you punch, cut
or paste. in 99% cases you don't have to worry about zero crossings any
more which is a big time saver.

I still like sonar for its MIDI part, but I will be using Samplitude for
audio from now on.

For the record, I did a little test, a blind test if you like, with
these two fines you can listen to here.

Same thing recorded in sonar and Samplitude, and I don't say which is which.

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Le 09/02/2017 à 00:42, Michael Taboada a écrit :
> I'd be interested to see if someone had done a null test on samplitude versus sonar, as there is quite a bit of an argument as to whether daws in general can actually sound different from each other. I'm of the opinion that any daw Will get the work done, as long as it's programmed properly, and any differences are probably down to user error, etc. rather than a daw actually sounding different. But like I said, there is a lot of argument about this.
> Michael.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> JSonar works enough on Windows 10 for me to get a bit of work done E.G. get
>> old projects out of it.  Wouldn't mix in Sonar now if you paid me as it
>> doesn't sound that great and won't work in Sonar at all now if I can help
>> it.  Record, mix and master in Samplitude Pro X3 Suite.  It's like going
>> from 2D to 3D mixing.  Samplitude sounds absolutely fantastic!!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [<mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neville Peter
>> Sent: 08 February 2017 17:20
>> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Hsc sets with sonar
>>
>>
>> Hey Phil,
>> Does Sonar 8.5 work on Windows 10 with J Sonar?
>>
>> Does J Sonar offer the same accessibility on Windows 10 as CT on Windows 7?
>>
>> I thought that accessibility in Sonar was a thing of the pass, since there
>> is no longer a Windows Classic theme for Windows 10. am I wrong? Is there
>> accessibility in Windows 10 even without the Windows classic theme?
>>
>>
>> May the Peace of God which passes all understanding guard your heart and
>> mind in Christ Jesus.
>>
>> Music Soft Sacred and Soulful
>>
>> HTTP://:nevillepeter.Com
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>> You do on Windows 10 as Cake Talking doesn't support that.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [<mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Raul Midon
>>> Sent: 08 February 2017 03:25
>>> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Hsc sets with sonar
>>>
>>> Hello everyone
>>> I am still using sonar 8.5 and it is working well for me.
>>> Do I need J sonar to use HSC?
>>> Thanks
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