How wonderful for her! I'm happy for you both! Julie http://www.livingblind.com/eml An inconvenience is only an adventure wrongly considered. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower@xxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: (VICT) training success > I've written here many, many moons ago about my now retired ten-year-old > dog Bristol. Bristol was program trained with corrections. I have been > trying to teach her to retrieve for years. Her puppy raisers must have > put the fear of god into her because she exhibits several signs of stress > even when I use positive methods. She will never voluntarily take > something from my hand, and I have tried everything in the book. The up > side to this, I guess, has been that she has never put her mouth on > anything that wasn't strictly hers but honestly, I'd rather have a dog who > maybe puts her mouth on things that I'd rather not or even put teeth marks > in things and be able to teach her using positive methods than a dog who > is so afraid that she won't touch anything. I really feel bad for > Bristol'; look up learned helplessness in the dictionary and you'll see > her smiling face. > Tonight I was doing work with Mill'E, my five-year-old golden and at the > end I was closing my bait bag and tossing it around the room because that > is one of her favorite games ever. I noticed Bristol becoming really > interested in this game I was playing with Mill'E. I put Mill'E on a down > stay, and tossed the bait bag after closing it tightly. > I didn't say a word, and Bristol hesitatingly walked over and stared at > the bag. She looked and looked and looked at me and looked at the bag. I > didn't say a word just made happy faces, and what do you know, she picked > it up and brought it to me. I practically squeezed her to death. I > tossed it a couple more times and then called it good. I also was doing > hand targeting with her and she is starting to follow my hand around. It > took forever for her to understand the click and to really dare to try and > do behaviors that were different. > I know this is a small thing but honestly I am proud of my old lady. > We'll keep working at it. I am not training it as a service task but I'm > hopefully showing her that she doesn't need to be afraid of trying new > things. > > Oh and I'm teaching Mill'E to wave; this is fun! > I love operant conditioning! > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches > Bristol, Gracy, Mill'E > "Everything on the earth has a purpose, every disease an herb to cure it, > and every person a mission. This is the Indian theory of > existence." ---Mourning > Dove [Christine Quintasket] (1888-1936) Salish > Pawpower@xxxxxxx > windows messenger: Brisomania@xxxxxxxxxxx > AIM: brissysgirl > >