Holy smokes!!! at least mine had 1Mg or ram?!?!:))))) And a whopping 30 Mg hard drive!!! hard drive was about 3 times the size of the power supply!!:))) One of the 1st screw ups I had was formatting the drive and finding out THEN what it means when you have the upgrade version of Dos 6.22!!! Took me all night to figure out how to get that installed without a previous copy of Dos on the MB.:)))) And yes, to the addons....I have used bunches of these things..I ALWAYS seem to wind up uninstalling them...About the only program I ever used that I really liked was the 1st 2 copies of 1stAid...after that it went to junk!! I have used the ever popular SysSoft Sandra numerous times...Not ONCE has it ever given me correct info on MOST of my system. It always tells me I have an Intel processor....I've NEVER had an Intel CPU in any system, except maybe for that 1st 286.. I will say I have relied on this new RegCleaner program a lot during this beta. And it IS highly recommended by people on the beta team....is it the best or better than others?? I don't have a clue..All I know is it works on my self built system extremely well. And yes to rerunning Windows Set up..Sometimes that's the easiest/ best place to start when you're working with a new person. I have a friend in KY that didn't know what a CPU even did when I 1st met her. She was excellent at using programs but not a clue what goes on inside the box. I have walked her thru a clean install and re-setting up a network where she works, tearing an old hard drive out of one other system , putting it on another, installing Windows, then returning it to the original box to finish...all because the install kept hanging at the hard ware level.... but it all goes back to basics..Go back is an excellent program But ONLY if the system is running correctly to start with. All kinds of issues to work with..I had an FIC 503+ motherboard once...Excellent board..but ONLY if the drivers for the board were loaded in the right order!! Bruce beddy1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ 3209671 ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChasM49@xxxxxxx> To: <triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Re System Mechanic Chuck > > > My apologies to the list... > Bruce. > basically that is what I have been saying... if you have a problem > dont add a new program until you fix the problem first.... I to ascribe to > not having all thoise "gotta Have" goodies and find that in most instances > all those addons create more problems than what they are worth.... and I do > not claim to be any sort of expert > but just have some time on these toys for quite a long time.... my first one > was a monster 8080 with a whopping big 16kb ram... lol... power suppply was > bigger than the main board and every part I soldered in myself..... and again > thru the years I have learend to always first revert back to the OS functions > first before adding more problems.... to make an anology... buy a brand new > car and then go out and buy all sorts of add ons made by some other company > and the car stops functioning as it did... manufacturer will not honor the > warranty.. is that the manufacturers fault or the addons... usually have to > remove the addons before any sort of diagnostics can be preformed.... same as > all the addons to an operating system.. take it back to basics.... and in > many cases it simply can be repaired by reinstalling the operating system... > in this case win98... and it is a recommended procedure... as it will > generaly rewrite those damaged files if any ... in Rebeccas case she wanted > to remove gator.... and windows instructions simply say use the add/remove > function in the control panel.. not to go out and obtain any other sort of > addon.... if people would stop the sales pitch for a "gotta have" would make > things lots less complicted and getting off target of which I admit I am > guilty of in my adamant "dissing of addons".... I have treid many of these > myself over time and they all have disappointed me dramatically.... as a > winxp beta tester I am sure you are familiar with the go round Micro Soft and > Kodak have just gone thru about MS not wanting to include Kodak files in xp.. > why? the darn files from kodak interfere with the OS is all.... and if you > have no use for kodak imaging then why should one be forced to install > it...the same with Real Networks players.... if an addon messes up an > operating system it is the fault of the addon not being written compatibly > with the operating system.. simple to the point and factual.... nothing > less.... in my mind thye create more problems than what they are worth....and > if one wants to leanr the winodws system there are many resources available > in print besides the help files in windows that in many cases are a bit > difficult to follow.. I have a couple of excellant books on the windows > system and am constantly refering to them... but in all cases thye aolways > seem to be saying use the system as it was designed..... not go out and buy > "xxxxx" to fix this problem...... just me is all... Chuck.. in Ok > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. > > To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk > UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk