[triadtechtalk] Re: Re System Mechanic Chuck

  • From: "Bruce Eddy" <beddy1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:12:06 -0400

Amen,  Armando!!!!

I may be out of place here, Donna, but here goes.:))))

We all seek to help people. we all speak from experiences. We were all
newbies just a few short years ago...

I personally will never put a Norton product on any of my machines
again...Except for Ghost....OTOH, I have used the System Mechanic and not
seen that it's any better/worse than any of the other utils....BUT, that may
be because my system rarely gets in a state where I really need anything
like that..

I am on the Windows Beta team...Having just finished the XP beta...A couple
programs  I heard a lot about are the Ad Aware and a program called
RegCleaner...Will, I adamantly scream that those are better than anything
you 2 are talking about??? not at all...But they work extremely well on my
system....THAT'S the key, it's my system...I have built every system I've
ever had except the 1st little 286/12 that was given to me back in '94...I
am A+ certed, but by no means do I know it all.....

One of the keys here is understanding who you are talking to, trying to find
out what kind of system they are running, what level of expertise the person
has....You want to help the person not totally confuse her to the point
where she is afraid to turn the damn PC on!!! I have helped tons of people
online..either thru email or, especially if they are afraid of making
mistakes, using ?Netmeeting I have actually connected to their machines and
done some snooping , making settings changes..what ever I can do from
here...Have even traveled as much as 600 miles to help online friends....

It all depends on who you are talking to...does she know enough that if
something you tell her screws up, she can get back to square 1??? ......what
kind of machine they are running. Is it generic, like mine..Or is it one of
those big name prebuilt systems with all the 'proprietary' needs?? does she
know how to do a clean install and get herself back online, if needed??? Is
she adventurous, willing to try new things, and willing to accept that it
could screw up because you can't see the exact screens she is seeing??? Is
it a business machine?? Does she have anything backed up?? I see a lot of
advice here on how to fix problems, but not many questions from the
'helper'?? to these issues.....

Rebecca is a sweetheart, but if you keep going on she will soon be afraid to
even turn the thing on!! I haven't followed this thread really close..but I
HAVE noticed the adamant replies...

From what little I remember about this whole thing, it sounds more to me
like she needs to take the system back to basics...Uninstall as much as she
can. Make the system run well THEN try adding new programs a little at a
time...there are tons of issues here...possible format and clean install???
Flashing the BIOS. Making sure all the correct drivers are loaded for her
system??? Just because a piece of hardware works, doesn't mean it's using
the correct driver.....or maybe she needs updated drivers?? she may even
have the wrong version of some of her programs loaded for the machine/OS she
is running. There are a myriad of things to look at when a machine is going
funky..Trying one of the quick fix utilities is a good place to start..but
when that fails, it's time to try going back to basics....

Just my 2 cents..ok.... maybe it's more like my $1....

My apologies to the list...



Bruce
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----- Original Message -----
From: <avbsantos@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:52 AM
Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re System Mechanic Chuck


>
>
> From Chuck in OK
> <when a system is mal-functiong the last thing you need is another
possible
> problem program.. System Mechanic works to a degree and is in one sense a
> ripoff... it has three levels built in and you must pay for each level if
you  want the added features even tho when it is installed all 3 levels>
>
> As I stated before & reaffirm now, System Mechanic will do more for a
newbie than any other registry & startup editor. IT WILL NOT & NEVER HAS
BEEN A PROBLEM PROGRAM, NORTON IS & CONTINUES TO BE on some systems,
depending on the configuration of the particular box in question.
>
> It has a 30 day free trial which on your very first try will give you a
clen system, for FREEE!
>
> You seem adverse to Syst Mech. yet you're willing to put out money for
Norton? I see no sense in your doing this since I asked her to use Syst.
Mech. for the 30 days  free trial period. Show me where I said that she
should buy it! No sooner does she use it the first time alone & 90 % of her
troubles will disappear. For free!
>
> The other 10% is due to Spyware & Insecurity(no cookie cutter nor firewall
installed).(Someone suggested IE 6- well the bugs on that are beginning to
surface already[many], according to what I've read on Langa, etc.)
>
> Let the lady fix her system first, don't you think that's what is now
necessary? At this time in my opinion what Rebecca needs is reassurance and
instructions and not someone planting doubts as to how to proceed & making
her hesitant as to whom she should trust & follow that advise or the other.
>
> Pardon me for airing out my opinion Chuck, but if you wish - take over!
> BTW, don't you know enough registry hacking to enable or disable any and
all programs as you might wish? Well System Mechanic takes you by the hand &
walks you through some of these without ever disabling your system! NEVER!
>
> Have you heard of GoBack? Now there's another great utility, or so think
all who have it! Well get yourself a copy of XXCOPY and you got a better
one, once you learn how to use it, and it's free.
>
> Backups, a must for all, dont you agree? A myriad of utilities for this is
available. Get yourself a copy of XXcopy, once you learn how to use it you
got it, for free.
>
> For your registry, it works from within Windows. Backup & restore your
registry. It works from DOS. It works!, and you don't have to guess if
you're doing it right or using the right backed up file. FREE: COP 2.2 by
PLATO.
>
> Ghost & other such utilities, all marvelous to use when you need them,
guess what?- XXCOPY! You want to copy a whole (entire drive) from one to
another & make it bootable, simultaneously? "XXCOPY C:/clone D:" does it. In
the background, as you continue to surf or play Freecell!
>
> I'm adamant about buying software when there is so much of it that is as
good or better than the commercial stuff. I do not want Rebecca to buy Syst.
Mech., I want her to use it.
>
> Partition magic, ahhh, there's a marvel! Right? Get PRESIZER, it's free!
> It does it all & more!
>
> Let's please help the lady & not make her hesitate as to whom she should
listen. She didn't know what a BSD is & though she has WIN 98 she didn't
know what WIN 9X stands for that & the others (95, 98, 98 SE). She's
definitely a NEWBIE. We gonna help her or what?
>
> You got a better idea on how she can rid herself of BSD's?
>
> (Blue screens of death is what crashing is called Rebecca, as when it says
in the white letters on a blue screen that "something has gone wrong & this
program must be ended". So in 'puter lingo everything is abbreviated)
>
> Rebecca, I'm sure that you can find help on line to solve ALL your
problems. Many are willing & very capable helpers. I myself am a NEWBIE &
that is why I joined this list & others of the same nature. That is how I've
learned the little bit I know. Have faith & ask questions & don't feel
embarrassed. WE HAVE ALL BEEN THERE! And I as well as every one here will
help you.
>
> Rebecca, from the help Chuck has offerd others on this very same list I
know he too is very capable and we're all going to help. Have you done
anything yet and what have been the results? How much memory is in your PC?
>
> Love! Armando. God bles America!
>
> I wish you good health and much happiness, today and
> always.
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