> Clarence.... > just dawned on me.. did you say youget internet explorer showing up when you > use ctrl/alt/del?.. if so.. ainbt supposed to be.. or does it say only > explorer? which means windows explorer which is entirely different.. .. but > if it is IE then you have but one choice my good fellow... start from scratch > as your system is messed up to the max and only way to fix it is go clean new > install as windows explorer and internet explorer are two different and > sepearte porgrams and you HAVE to have windows explorer in the systray all > the time This is what is running that Ctrl-Alt-Delete shows when I start my day: Post-It Notes, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, sscanner, Explorer, Rsrcmtr, Psngive, Kbdtray, Em_exec, Vettray, CookieWall, Itouch, Ptsnoop, Systray, Nprotect, Vetmsg9x, Task Scheduler, IPE Real-time, Volume, Mouse, Cap Lock is Off What is shown here is run at start up or reboot and all I add to it is my browser (Microsoft Internet Explorer) and my mailer/reader (Outlook Express) which is shown above, as for Explorer, it is always there, but I have never seen any Icon in my systray for it as I have to use a shortcut to load my Explorer screen when I want to look at a file or something in Windows Explorer as it is the folder with the spyglass on it Icon as I am sure you know! And I have no idea of what Vetmsg9x is as there is no icon in the systray for it and besides I don't have my poodles any more and don't write to the Vet! ; ) So then, if I must have Explorer running all the time, then I had better not close it as has been suggested, right? So now, if I understand correctly, I should close everything BUT... MIE, OE, Explorer & systray to start my work day, right? I shall await your answer before I shut down everything even though my work day has already started as I don't want to spend the rest of the day trying to get my computer back up and running again! .......clarence....... .......clarence....... > Chuck... in OK www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi