> In a message dated 7/25/2001 5:32:49 AM Central Daylight Time, > cabehogan@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > close everything BUT... MIE, OE, Explorer & systray to > Clarence.... when you start your pc and are not on line... But of course I am on line 7/24 with Charter.net's cable modem! > if were my pc.... > only thing you neeed and should have is explorer and systray.... Which is exactly what I have when I Ctrl-Alt-Delete after start up and close everything but those two items AND THEN I load OE and get my messages and then as soon as I need to check something out on the web, I then load MIE and then that is all that is loaded and running, so sorry if I did not make myself clear no that point! However, after running most of the day since 4am I am still getting the same error message or MIE & OE lock up completely and I have to CAD and reload them and Nortons, Dr. Watson or sfc show nothing amiss, nor does scandisk and I run defrag religiously! > and do your > thing with system,files stuff.... or any other things that do not require you > to be on line.... then when you go on line al sorts of goodies get loaded.... Well, since I am on 7/24, where do these goodies show? > but not every program that runs is shown in the system tray shows an icon.... > specifically systray and windows exporer.... Correct as I have always observed! > am wondering why you have > Internet exporer load immeadialtey?... I don't as explained above! > if you arent on line then it isnt > needed.. once again.. anything that is in the systray or shows up when you do > ctrl-alt-del means it is loaded at startup.. Well, that is what I thought! > and if you use msconfig it is a > troubleshooting file is all.. so to stop any of the files running in the > background you need to go back to each file and make changes to its startup > settings or they will always be there.... That is good to know and when I figure out how to do that when I get things working right again, I will take that approach so I don't have to go through the trouble of using CAD on each and every thing that loads on start up, for example Ptsnoop which always returns on it's own after I uncheck it in msconfig, just to name one! > and yes MSTask always asserts itself > as coming on every time you reinstall.. one of those grin and bear it > things.. So I have learned! : ' ( ; ) > simply open the porgram go to options and clcik stop using MStask > scheduler and its over until some program re-opens it when you install a new > program and many many of those dumb so called extra specail super great > manager types do that.... Yes, I have done that procedure plenty of times, but it just keeps coming back upon reboot or start up! > if they were really great ol billy boy would have > bought the company out and stuffed the program into windows.... and if you do > a complete check on windows any vewrsion you will find a load of programs > that arent form MS.. but are form other copmpanies and mS is licensed to use > them... That sounds about right to me even though I don't know all that much about it! > so...... after messing with this trash startinf out on an 8080 cpu > home built using pure basic back in 1979 to date I have found all of those > "addons always seem to have a naet little way of queering whatever basic > opperating sytem you are running.. but what it all comesa down to... to get a > pc running near perfect.. first and foremost is to make absolutelty sure > whatever the basic operatring system is,,, it must be perefect.. ot forrget > any additions as it just compunds all the problems forever..... I believe I understand what you are saying and since my dear ole daddy always said that there was nothing perfect in this world, that kind of lets the possibility of gettng a perfect OS an impossible task! > many a time > have about decidied to just throwq away the machine and build a new one.. but > then said .. ok... lets dump it all and do it one by one.. and lol and behold > it works.... and if you read any warranty from any software company they > right off tell you... sorry no thanks and bye if you have problems running > this program as we are not liable for any of the probelms you may encounter > with other programs after installing our program as it isnt our fault... its > always the other programs fault.........and one other thing and am sure you > have heard it many a time.... if it sounds to good to be true.. then it > aint.... AMEN, you sure got that right! > and again,... my opinion is all... Chuck... in Ok And as usual, a fine opinion! .......clarence in TN........ www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi