Clarence.... just dawned on me.. did you say youget internet explorer showing up when you use ctrl/alt/del?.. if so.. ainbt supposed to be.. or does it say only explorer? which means windows explorer which is entirely different.. .. but if it is IE then you have but one choice my good fellow... start from scratch as your system is messed up to the max and only way to fix it is go clean new install as windows explorer and internet explorer are two different and sepearte porgrams and you HAVE to have windows explorer in the systray all the time Chuck... in OK www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi