Brian.... there has been some pretty "vexing" problems with Firefox and the implementation of the Adobe add-ons... plus some big time bad security mess ups due to them.... and to me when I tried Firefox.... all I saw was a hidden MS IE9 with its garbage hidden in it..... I hate the stupid way downloads are placed ..... need to become a programmer nearly to place downloads where you want them..... aint no good to me for either one..... but with MS9 at least it eliminates many of the mess ups when using a strange add on. Chuck In a message dated 1/26/2012 10:12:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Richard' I always appreciate any help; even if it wasn't the magic suggestion that solved the riddle. This vexing issue must be extremely elusive with the absence of any possible solutions. There are a few ways to side step the problem. As Howard and Chuck mentioned, maybe switching to Opera would be in order. I sure hate to give up on Firefox, since I have so much time invested in it and the ease of which I can effectively use it. Also this is just one more of many unresolvable irregularities I have now had to live with since installing W7. I have also been thinking maybe a non-destructive reinstall of W7 may solve some of the problems. One thing is certain, is that the problem is severe enough that I will have to do something. So I will stumble along for a while trying to find a solution, but will probably do one or more of the above if I an unsuccessful. So if anyone has any other ideal please let me know. Thanks to you and the others for offering the help. Brian ================= On 1/26/2012 5:39 PM, RICHARD MATTHEW wrote: I should have read more carefully, Brian. Firefox. Sorry! Richard On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:54 AM, <_ChasM49@xxxxxxxx (mailto:ChasM49@xxxxxxx) > wrote: Howard.. yes I agree nearly word for word....on both subjects... Vista and Firefox..... and Brian... will be definite troubles if simply dumping the C partition.... as drive wont boot to B.... plus... everything you have is working from the B drive...... so..... BIG problems...... don't even want to attempt explanations.....way more difficulty involved that a simple format,delete etc...... main reasons should not dual boot replacements to current versions...... makes for messy operations...... but thats my opinions.....Chuck In a message dated 1/26/2012 8:00:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, _hbint@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:hbint@xxxxxxxxxxx) writes: Hi Brian ... I think you may want to Google about removing Vista from a dual boot with win 7. You may find that it will leave some repair work to do in Win 7 after that is done. I have never seen a computer with those 2 dual booting, but in other combinations, some damage is done to the boot files. I’m sure you will find someone who has done that. As for Firefox, I (personally) don’t care for it at all. THAT IS JUST MY OPINION FOLKS! I have heard good things about it, but I have tried and don’t see faster, better, safer etc. etc. ... guess I go back too far to change much. I also don’t think you can change the assigned letter of the system partition. Just a quick note to give my opinion ... Howard From: _brian_ (mailto:brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx) Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:18 PM To: _triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Another Vexing Problem Richard & Chuck, Thanks for the replies. First about Richard's suggestion. I checked for the special Icon. But I don't have this Icon in the the Firefox search bar; I have this one I did some checking and the mention of the ActiveX seemed to be just related to IE. So I thought maybe my IE web browser was causing the problem. But when I looked at the search area in IE and hoovered over the Icon it displayed this: So I guess IE isn't causing the problem. A few of the sites I looked at when checking ActiveX mentioned that DOM Storage in Firefox could be a problem. I then used about:config in Firefox to change the setting to false to deactivate them. But again the problem persists. One thing for sure the problem is not with IE or Chrome browser. This is a good example what the problem is doing only to Firefox: This is the display of an Amazon web page using Chrome: And this is the same page displayed in Firefox: As can be seen, nearly all the graphics is gone from Firefox and in fact, much of the text! It make some web sites nearly impossible to navigate since one can't see various options. Like the missing down arrow in the Electronics box in Firefox. I hope this may spark some further ideas about the cause and solution to this issue. ================= ================= Chuck, Yes, I sure agree that it is time to remove Vista. I have been very cautious about making certain changes since it like a medical treatment: the cure can cause100 times more severe problems than one started with. I have found a way I think I can remove Vista, and would appreciate if you think it is the way to go. Vista is now on the C:\ drive and Win7 is on the B:\ drive both on the same disk along with a Gateway recovery partition, A:\. My plan was to make a Vista image back up just in case, and also do a separate back up of some other things not on Win7. Then I would simply format the Vista C:\ drive using Win Explorer hoping Win7 would revert to the C:\ drive where it belongs. These would be the steps I would plan to take: a. Boot into W7. b. Click Start>Computer & check to see how many partitions you have. c. Identify the Vista partition d. Right click on it>select Format>Start. e. And in a few minutes I would hope Vista would be gone. If you think that would work without causing more problems I will add it to my to do schedule. Brian ============= On 1/25/2012 5:31 PM, RICHARD MATTHEW wrote: You need to allow ActiveX on those pages, Brian, or else you will get that message. Look up at your bar where the url is. see the little blue circle with the line through it? Click on it and then click, "Turn off ActiveX filtering. You should be good to go. Richard On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:12 PM, brian <_brian99@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: Hello to all TTT members, I have encountered a problem that seems basic but I simply can't solve it no matter what I try. I hope someone has experience with this problem. I am using W7 64Bit with Firefox. The problem involves not being able to install Adobe Flash Player. When displaying web pages there are sections missing. E.G, this message is displayed when I go to this site to display a chart: _http://tinyurl.com/895j5ll_ (http://tinyurl.com/895j5ll) So I then click the message and it displays this: -------------------------------- Then when I click to find the missing Plug In it finds it: Flash Player: ------------------------------------------------------------ So hopefully I click and expect it will install the plug In. All looks promising as it starts to install. . . . But then it stops updating and displays this message stating that Firefox has disabled Flash: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Check Your Plug-ins Keeping your third-party plug ins up to date helps Firefox run safely and smoothly. Missing FLASH? For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Flash. Please upgrade to the latest version. Adobe Flash Player Adobe Flash Player 11.1.102.55 (7.74 MB) It takes me to a Plug In page indicating the Java is outdated so I update both the 32 and 64 bit version of Java. ------------------------------------------ So I update Java but it didn't help at all; the same problem exists. When I try to install Adobe Flash Player this is displayed and the entire cycle is repeated : My system is a dual boot with Win7 and Vista; could that be a problem even when only using Win7? I hope someone has an idea what could be causing this. Thanks for any help. BRIAN