Armando,
I went back to check out all the links you provided in between
trying to track down the Adobe Flash frustration.
A couple questions/comments about NoScript and FlashGet.
I had tried NoScript out before but had to give up on it since it
was overwhelming at that time.
I gave it a new quick try since my level of understand has
improved since I first tried it.
It is still seems quite complex, but I thought maybe if I know
what I was doing maybe I could use it.
I looked at a couple of sites about it and this site seemed like a
good one by Dedoimedo helped:
Using Noscript correctly - http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/noscript-use.html
Dedoimedo stated about security and in general about NoScript:
"Those who need it can't
use it and those who can don't need it. What
more, ordinary users have no clue what they're doing
most of the time."
That sure seems to sum it up!
Since you said you place it your customer's
computer, what do you advise them about how it should be
used?
The Review of download managers article's conclusion was
that LeechGet,
followed by Download Express were the winners.
Is there a reason you decided to use FlashGet and and not one of the other two?
Also, I checked the name of the program I am using and it is not
Download Accelerator, but rather DownloadHelper.
http://www.downloadhelper.net/faq.php
It is a down load and install program not the a Firefox extension.
I hope that it has a better reputation the Download
Accelerator.
Finally, I gave a good check after trying multiple Flash
fixes and found that all the browsers I occasionally still work:
Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera.
And the big news I made some progress.
I was able to install Adobe Flash Player 10 Plug In.
Now when I go to this page, Installation problems |
Flash Player | Windows - http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19166.html
I can finally get this display:
The display on Firefox pages is now displaying about 75% of the
Flash displayed content!
BREAKING NEWS!!
I just checked a Firefox page again and magically its working!
This is the chart I have not been able to view for many many
days:
The only thing that I can think of that may have made some
change is Noscript!
When I was trying it out, I blocked a couple of items when they
came up.
Well, I made a quick Restore Point and will hold my breath that
the good news lasts tomorrow.
Brian
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On 1/28/2012 6:21 AM, armando barreiro wrote:
Download accelerator
is a POS(*). Flashget is what you want and in order to use
it with FF install the Flashgot(**) plugin.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_download_managers>
Never had any problems with spy/adware with Flashget, but
I've also installed "noscript
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/>
YMMV, but that's what I use in all my customer's PC's and
in all my versions of windows.
(*)<http://www.safer-networking.org/en/articles/download-managers.html>
(**)<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashgot/>
BTW, when using Windows I've never used IE except for when
updating a system that has not been previously configured
to use Windows automatic updates. FF is my choice of
browsers.
P.S.: Isn't it a PIA to be constantly having to debug
Windows in order to use it?, I think so!
Armando
--- On Sat, 1/28/12, Bruce Eddy <beddy1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Bruce Eddy <beddy1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Another Vexing Problem
To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 1:40 AM
Hi Brian, you
might try PCMover program. That works pretty
darn good
In
essence..Windows puts your entire hard drive
in a window.old folder… The PC mover program
drags all your programs and their reg settings
out of the old folder and into the new windows
version..
Not an expensive
program either.
Bruce
Chuck,
Thanks for those additional comments.
Since I owe nearly all of my early computer
learning to the TTT expert tutors I think
someone must have suggested Firefox.
I thought that Firefox has been simply
phenomenal for all the years I have used it.
Up until this point I have had a few Firefox
issues but all could be resolved.
I had always
used Download Accelerator to do all downloads
in all browsers including Firefox.
With just one click it would lets me place the
download any were I wanted and I could just as
quick access it.
I think that his problem with Firefox was most
likely the result of something I did.
As I had mentioned previously, due to my goof
ups, I can only run Windows Experience Rating
from a command prompt, the Task Scheduler
doesn't work any more,
and I get a few error messages telling me some
things aren't working properly. E.G, the error
message that just popped up after a reboot
said some to the effect that run time acted in
an unusual manner and somehow
Windows\system32\nvvsnc.exe was involved. So
as long as most things keep working I don't
try vary hard to fix the issue.
Since many of the problems can be fixed with
program reinstalls or an updates, many
problems are eventually fixed.
But I get the feeling that Windows itself is
what is causing some or many problems.
Consequently, I am thinking this may to the
time to do a Windows Reinstall.
The only thing that was holding me back was
loosing all my programs.
But when I found an article by Fred Langa, "Win7′s
no-reformat, nondestructive reinstall", http://tinyurl.com/689ogbv
that seemed like the answer I
needed.
I would hope that maybe a clean Windows folder
would solve the Adobe Flash problem!
Does that make any sense at all?
Brian
===================
On 1/27/2012 8:18 AM, ChasM49@xxxxxxx
wrote:
Brian....
there has been some pretty "vexing" problems
with Firefox and the implementation of the
Adobe add-ons... plus some big time bad
security mess ups due to them.... and to me
when I tried Firefox.... all I saw was a
hidden MS IE9 with its garbage hidden in
it..... I hate the stupid way downloads are
placed ..... need to become a programmer
nearly to place downloads where you want
them..... aint no good to me for either
one..... but with MS9 at least it eliminates
many of the mess ups when using a strange
add on. Chuck
Richard'
I
always appreciate any help; even if it
wasn't the magic suggestion that solved
the riddle.
This vexing issue must be extremely
elusive with the absence of any possible
solutions.
There are a few ways to side step the
problem.
As Howard and Chuck mentioned, maybe
switching to Opera would be in order.
I sure hate to give up on Firefox, since I
have so much time invested in it and the
ease of which I can effectively use it.
Also this is just one more of many
unresolvable irregularities I have now had
to live with since installing W7.
I have also been thinking maybe a
non-destructive reinstall of W7 may solve
some of the problems.
One thing is certain, is that the problem
is severe enough that I will have to do
something.
So I will stumble along for a while trying
to find a solution, but will probably do
one or more of the above if I an
unsuccessful.
So if anyone has any other ideal please
let me know.
Thanks to you and the others for offering
the help.
Brian
=================
On 1/26/2012 5:39 PM, RICHARD MATTHEW
wrote:
I
should have read more carefully, Brian.
Firefox. Sorry!
On
Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:54 AM, <ChasM49@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
Howard..
yes I agree nearly word for
word....on both subjects... Vista
and Firefox..... and Brian... will
be definite troubles if simply
dumping the C partition.... as drive
wont boot to B.... plus...
everything you have is working from
the B drive...... so..... BIG
problems...... don't even want to
attempt explanations.....way more
difficulty involved that a simple
format,delete etc...... main reasons
should not dual boot replacements to
current versions...... makes for
messy operations...... but thats my
opinions.....Chuck
In a
message dated 1/26/2012
8:00:38 A.M. Central Standard
Time, hbint@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi Brian ... I think you may
want to Google about
removing Vista from a dual
boot with win 7. You may
find that it will leave
some repair work to do in
Win 7 after that is done.
I have never seen a
computer with those 2 dual
booting, but in other
combinations, some damage
is done to the boot files.
I’m sure you will find
someone who has done that.
As for Firefox, I
(personally) don’t care
for it at all. THAT IS
JUST MY OPINION FOLKS! I
have heard good things
about it, but I have tried
and don’t see faster,
better, safer etc. etc.
... guess I go back too
far to change much. I also
don’t think you can change
the assigned letter of the
system partition.
Just a quick note to give my
opinion ...
Sent: Wednesday,
January 25, 2012
10:18 PM
Subject:
[triadtechtalk] Re:
Another Vexing
Problem
Richard
& Chuck,
Thanks for the replies.
First about Richard's
suggestion.
I checked for the special
Icon.
But I don't have this Icon in the
the Firefox search bar; I
have this one
I
did some checking and the
mention of the ActiveX
seemed to be just related
to IE.
So I thought maybe my IE
web browser was causing
the problem.
But
when I looked at the
search area in IE and
hoovered over the Icon it
displayed this:
So
I guess IE isn't causing
the problem.
A few of the sites I
looked at when checking
ActiveX mentioned that DOM
Storage in Firefox could
be a problem.
I then used about:config
in Firefox to change the
setting to false to
deactivate them.
But again the problem
persists.
One thing for sure the
problem is not with IE or
Chrome browser.
This is a good example
what the problem is doing
only to Firefox:
This is the display of an
Amazon web page using
Chrome:
And
this is the same page
displayed in Firefox:
As can be seen, nearly all
the graphics is gone from
Firefox and in fact, much
of the text!
It make some web sites
nearly impossible to
navigate since one can't
see various options.
Like the missing down
arrow in the Electronics
box in Firefox.
I hope this may spark some
further ideas about the
cause and solution to this
issue.
=================
=================
Chuck, Yes, I sure agree
that it is time to remove
Vista.
I have been very cautious
about making certain
changes since it like a
medical treatment:
the cure can cause100
times more severe problems
than one started with.
I have found a way I think
I can remove Vista, and
would appreciate if you
think it is the way to go.
Vista is now on the C:\
drive and Win7 is on the
B:\ drive both on the same
disk along with a Gateway
recovery partition, A:\.
My plan was to make a
Vista image back up just
in case, and also do a
separate back up of some
other things not on Win7.
Then I would simply format
the Vista C:\ drive using
Win Explorer hoping Win7
would revert to the C:\
drive where it belongs.
These would be the
steps I would plan to
take:
a. Boot into W7.
b. Click Start>Computer
& check to see how
many partitions you have.
c. Identify the Vista
partition
d. Right click on
it>select
Format>Start.
e. And in a few minutes I
would hope Vista would be
gone.
If you think that would
work without causing more
problems I will add it to
my to do schedule.
Brian
=============
On 1/25/2012 5:31 PM,
RICHARD MATTHEW wrote:
You need to allow ActiveX on
those pages, Brian, or
else you will get that
message. Look up at your
bar where the url is.
see the little blue
circle with the line
through it? Click on it
and then click, "Turn
off ActiveX filtering.
You should be good to
go.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:12
PM, brian <brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello
to all TTT members,
I have encountered a
problem that seems
basic but I simply
can't solve it no
matter what I try.
I hope someone has
experience with this
problem.
I am using W7 64Bit
with Firefox.
The problem involves
not being able to
install Adobe Flash
Player.
When displaying web
pages there are
sections missing.
E.G, this message is
displayed when I go to
this site to display a
chart: http://tinyurl.com/895j5ll
So
I then click the
message and it
displays this:
--------------------------------
Then when I click to
find the missing Plug
In it finds it: Flash
Player:
------------------------------------------------------------
So hopefully I click
and expect it will
install the plug In.
All looks promising as
it starts to install.
. . .
But
then it stops updating
and displays this
message stating that
Firefox has disabled
Flash:
----------------------------------------------------------------
Check Your
Plug-ins
Keeping your
third-party plug
ins up to date
helps Firefox run
safely and
smoothly.
Missing FLASH?
For your safety,
Firefox has
disabled your
outdated version
of Flash. Please
upgrade to the
latest version.
Adobe Flash Player
Adobe Flash Player
11.1.102.55 (7.74
MB)
It takes me to a
Plug In page
indicating the
Java is outdated
so I update both
the 32 and 64 bit
version of Java.
------------------------------------------
So
I update Java but it
didn't help at all;
the same problem
exists.
When I try to install
Adobe Flash Player
this is displayed and
the entire cycle is
repeated :
My system is a dual
boot with Win7 and
Vista; could that be a
problem even when only
using Win7?
I hope someone has an
idea what could be
causing this.
Thanks for any help.
BRIAN
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