It is the system. Unfortunately, there are those who are oblivious and trust
everyone, and those who have experienced it and are triggered by all of this.
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 1:35:40 PM CDT, Carrie Hub
<carriehub060300@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here is the confusing thing. It can't be just our elders. It's the system.
I did talk to a older lady in our church today who expressed her thankfulness
for the training. She hasn't been personally exposed to any of this, and she
thought it was good information. It made me glad that it was helpful to her,
and she understood why I was concerned that it could be harmful to others. She
was concerned that too many Christians would rather stay uneducated and
therefore unsafe which I can understand.
Several elders want to meet. Please pray that something good will come of all
this. It's been horrible having my church history which was full of abusers
unearthed.
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 6:25 PM Elizabeth Lovelace <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
So glad you said something. So sad that the elders were oblivious.
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019, 8:56:19 AM CDT, Renee O'Leske
<larsen.renee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carrie, I am soooo thankful for your tender & obedient / courageous heart!
Blessings, grace & peace from God our Father on you and your church family!
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 8:24 AM Carrie Hub <carriehub060300@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for all of your prayers. I sent a letter (which Brian previewed/helped
with wording) to the elders last night explaining more fully why I felt I must
speak. I scooted out quickly after the meeting on Sunday, but Brian said a
couple people stopped him, told him they were "statistics," and thanked us for
saying something, so maybe this whole things was for them to know that they are
not alone or uncared for. Don't know for sure, just trying to obey even when
it's scary. Praying that the elders stop and think of those among us who have
been hurt and that the elder who has a hurt one as a wife will be tender with
her. Please pray that he will love her well. This whole thing has shaken her.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 5:32 AM K. Jeanne Colas <kristi.colas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Proud of you, Carrie, for having the courage to say something publicly and for
desiring to do so in a gracious and Spirit-filled way. Praying for good
communication, love, patience and compassion. Kristi Jeanne Colas
11 rue Henri Dunant95410 Groslay, France
Le mar. 6 août 2019 à 03:58, Renee O'Leske <larsen.renee@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
Carrie,Thanks for sharing! I will be praying for you and for the right
words... so there is a mutual understanding...
Hugs!!-Renee
On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 8:48 PM James Brabson <thebrabsonfamily@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Praying for wisdom and the right words to express your concern.
On August 5, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Carrie Hub <carriehub060300@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Would appreciate some prayer. A couple of weeks ago an e-mail from the church
was sent out to update our ministry safety training to work with kids. The
video that was required was disturbing. I know that I am sheltered, but it
wasn't good. I personally believe that it wasn't good for the general public,
but it was horrible for anyone who has ever dealt with sexual abuse. It spent a
lot of time on profiling the abuser and very little on how to actually prevent
the abuser from having time/access to the kids. Several people had reached out
to different elders, but several had not seen the video and those who had
didn't think much of it. I guess compared to other video it was pretty light. I
don't care how it compares; it was bad. So yesterday at the yearly business
meeting when it was brought up and no elder addressed or warned about the
content or offered another solution, with Brian's support (he watched the video
and agreed) I stood up and said something. I was concerned that people would be
blindsided and hurt unduly. I, personally, have a lot of anger/hurt/confusion
in regards to the elders and honestly to the whole system that seeks to prevent
sexual abuse, but makes no place of safety for the adults who have already been
abused. Do you we all need training? Yes. Do we all need to be exposed to
explicit content? No. You can't tell me that this can't be done with more care
and grace.
Would love your prayer as I, myself, process this whole event, and prayer that
if/when I meet with the elders I would be able to explain myself well and that
maybe they would understand.
Thanks for being a safe place.
Carrie
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