[tn-dragonflies] Re: Help with dragonfly ID
- From: Rconnorsphoto@xxxxxxx
- To: tn-dragonflies@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:35:01 -0400 (EDT)
**post from Marion that got bumped:
Rick,
I agree with Richard's comments, and it's not just the size that would =
preclude Piedmont Clubtail, it's the proportions. Those can often be =
hard to tell from a photo - angles vary and all that; but your clubtail =
appears to have the typical bulky thorax, small head, and long, slender =
abdomen of the Gomphurus clubtails, of which Splendid is one. Piedmont =
should have more the appearance of a short, chunky, bigger-headed =
clubtail. But, again, often difficult to discern in a photo.
Splendid Clubtail is not uncommon in my area, and I have numerous photos =
of them with varying "degrees of incompleteness" of the anterior lateral =
thoracic stripe on the G. lineatifrons page of my website:
=
http://www.mamomi.net/Gomphidae/Pages/Splendid_Clubtail_-_Gomphus_lineatif=
rons.html
Marion Dobbs
9 Bridlewood Lane
Rome GA 30165
ecurlew AT mac.com
http://www.mamomi.net
http://mamomi.smugmug.com=20
"Everywhere I go I'm asked if I think the university stifles writers. My =
opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them."_Flannery O'Connor
Marion Dobbs
9 Bridlewood Lane
Rome GA 30165
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http://www.mamomi.net
http://mamomi.smugmug.com/
Science is wonderfully equipped to answer the question "How?" but it =
gets terribly confused when you ask the question "Why?"_Edwin Chargaff
In a message dated 6/25/2013 4:19:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sunfish0501@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Thanks, I'll look into those references. If traffic is slow, I have one
more for id. I took this several years ago in Kingsport. I tentatively
identified it as Carolina Saddlebags, but I now see it's possible this might
also
be a Red Saddlebags. Is there enough info in this one photo for an id? I
can only locate this one photo. I'll just give a link to my Flickr
photostream rather than gum up the listserve with images. Here is the link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ricksphotos0501/9128757663/.
Rick
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM, <_Rconnorsphoto@aol.com_
(mailto:Rconnorsphoto@xxxxxxx) > wrote:
Odonata Central, hosted at U. of Texas, Austin, is the clearing house for
records kept by Dragonfly Society of the Americas (DSA) it's here:
http://www.odonatacentral.org/
They keep up with county records. Check them out, and register to submit
records if you intend to do that.
Yes, this is fun stuff! And it's a natural progression for birders and
butterfly watchers to get interested in Odonates. Good books are Dennis
Paulson's Dragonflies and Damselflies of the East, and Giff Beaton's
Dragonflies
and Damselflies of Georgia and the Southeast. Dragonflies Through
Binoculars is still a good one, but you will need a reference for damselflies
to go
with that. Damselflies of the Northeast by Ed Lam is a great little book
with beautiful illustrations of all (so far) of our species of damsels, look
on Amazon for this is out of print. You can still get copies directly from
Ed.
Enjoy, and thanks for posting, there hasn't been much traffic here yet
this year.
Richard
In a message dated 6/25/2013 2:54:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_sunfish0501@gmail.com_ (mailto:sunfish0501@xxxxxxxxx) writes:
Thanks so much, Richard. I'll look it up. Are there county checklists for
odonates in Tennessee online anywhere? I've seen your great photos. I'm
going to be out as much as possible this summer photographing dragonflies and
I'm sure I'm going to come across many I don't know. In fact, I know very
few as I've spent most of my time outdoors as a birder. Pretty exiting
starting out with something you don't know crap about again!
Rick
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:43 PM, <_Rconnorsphoto@aol.com_
(mailto:Rconnorsphoto@xxxxxxx) > wrote:
Rick,
To me, it looks most like Splendid Clubtail (Gomphus lineatifrons). The
yellow marks on the club are right; the anterior line on the side of the
thorax looks thin but complete, which according to the literature it can be,
but is usually interrupted. Piedmont Clubtail is similar, and has been seen
in Hawkins Co., it is smaller than Splendid. Can't judge size from the
photo, but most likely Splendid Clubtail ... splendid!
Look that one up and see if you agree.
Richard Connors
Nashville
In a message dated 6/25/2013 2:03:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_sunfish0501@gmail.com_ (mailto:sunfish0501@xxxxxxxxx) writes:
Hello,
I took this dragonfly photo at Phipps Bend in Hawkins County, Tennessee in
June, 2009. The habitat was on a dirt road running alongside a large pond
in bottomland habitat. I was wondering if anyone could assist with
identification? Thanks.
Rick
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Rick Phillips
Kingsport, Tennessee
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Rick Phillips
Kingsport, Tennessee
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Rick Phillips
Kingsport, Tennessee
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