[tn-bird] Re: Hummers and Pishing
- From: "TH Cumbie" <thcumbie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:21:18 -0400
Banders and Pishers,
Here is your chance to speak up for this whole process. I have banded and
certainly pish.. I am considerate and conservative as are most birders and
banders whom I have observed in the field when this is done. To me the
benefits are far greater than any possible damages.
I have heard a few speak against pishing.. and one or two against banding.
As a whole it is helpful to know and keep records of all the birds we can
locate, in my opinion.
Tess Cumbie
Buladean
----- Original Message -----
From: Sheb Marsh <sapsucker@xxxxxxx>
To: <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: [tn-bird] Re: Hummers and Pishing
>
> >> I was wondering if some of you might answer a >>question I have
concerning
> >> hummers, especially the learned Bob Sargent. >>Within the last couple
of weeks
> >> I have had hummers come to trees where I was >>trying to raise some
hidden
> >> Passerines by pishing.
> >> Roger Mayhorn
>
> >Another weird one you may want to try is pishing >for shorebirds! Don't
laugh
> >and throw me off of Tennessee Birds until you try >it. I first saw it
used
> >successfully in Alaska by Dave Stejskal of Tucson, >one of Field Guides,
> >Inc.'s super bird guides.
>
> >Bob Sargent
>
> That one really got me. Why on earth would you want to or have to pish
shorebirds? I can possibly understand the irresistible urge to pish a bird
hidden in the bush so you can see it, but shorebirds are in the open and
there's no need to disturb them. One would hope to observe them quietly and
unobtrusively, as all of our bird viewing ideally should be. As birders,
there are few ways of observing birds without disturbance, but we should try
to minimize the disturbance as much as possible.
>
> There has been talk of pishing and playing screech owl tapes to draw birds
into the open. It worries me that newer birders may be drawn to these means
because they see that the good birders are doing it and seeing a lot more
birds than they are. I urge you to keep these disturbances to a minimum, and
they are disturbances. Often times birds will continue to feed during an owl
tape, but there are several species who stop everything to give complete
attention to the tape and when that occurs the tape should be stopped
immediately. Thrushes and Phoebes come to mind and there are others.
Pishing, however, while it doesn't draw birds from as far away as tapes, is
usually more disruptive to the nearby birds. The birds stop everything and
give it their complete attention and leave the area as soon as it stops. You
have just driven them away from a place they preferred to be, but no longer
feel safe. And never, never play tapes and pish while birds are nesting.
They need to devote all their time to caring for their young and shouldn't
have to show themselves for your benefit.
>
> We all could stand a little self examination in our birding ethics, and I
am no exception. I have pished and I have played tapes, but I am learning to
curb my zeal. We also could be more critical in examining other practices
relating to birds. Banding birds is another area that could use some
attention. I believe the recovery rate of banded birds is about 2%. In other
words you'd have to band 50 birds to recover one. That's disturbing a lot of
birds for so little result. I'd guess the recovery rate for hummers to be
higher and the facts learned are certainly interesting. There are six
hummers for every one you see. That's fascinating, but do we need to know
it? It sates our curiosity but how does it benefit the hummers? Keeping them
long enough to measure their body fat to see if they are able to continue
migration? They know when they are ready and we don't need to. Just keep
your feeders up until the solution freezes.
>
> I think it would be wonderful to hold a bird in my hand and see it close
up and have several times considered attending a banding session. But I know
in my heart it isn't right and as much as I would like to, the love of birds
and what's best for them is more important. If banding is done at all the
birds should be released as quickly as possible and taking time to let
others hold them or photograph them is unnecessarily delaying the release. I
am not accusing Bob Sargent of any of these practices, and from what I have
read I'd bet he doesn't let anyone else handle the birds he captures.
>
> >From what I have seen most banders are conscientious and caring people,
and often some of the nicest people you would ever want to meet. As birders
we disturb birds more than nonbirders, but no one disturbs birds more than
banders.
>
> Sheb Marsh
> Paducah, KY
>
>
>
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