[tinwhiskers] Re: IPC Survey Reveals Electronics Industry Not Prepared for REACH

"Mark Vaughan" <mark@xxxxxxxxxx> · Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:48:56 +0100

As someone in the UK I would welcome this.
If the whole of the US say no to these ridiculous legislations, then the EU
and rest of the world have to listen. AT one time the UK led the world, but
our traitor politicians have given the UK to the EU. For many years later
the US led the world, too big to be ignored. But hey guy's the EU are taking
you over, you are all following the EU like sheep, adopting EU policy
blindly.

In order to stop this a revolution is needed, but it must start from outside
the legislated EU region. If China then take hold, the EU would not have any
electronics goods.

You can also still use the environment in the argument. If goods aren't
going to survive as long without lead, then they are not good for the
environment. All we need is controlled waste recycling. Now you need I
suppose a senator or the president to back it.

Regs Mark

Dr. Mark Vaughan Ph'D., B.Eng. M0VAU
Managing Director
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Water Care Technology Ltd, reg in UK no 4129351
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[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
Sent: 06 August 2008 04:28
To: 'Steve Smith'
Cc: 'Gordon Davy'; 'Henning W Leidecker'; 'Steve Karty @ home'; 'tin
whiskers forum'
Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: IPC Survey Reveals Electronics Industry Not
Prepared for REACH

Thanks for this idea Steve.  We will try it.  A few years ago when CE Mark
became law in the EU (they just keep raising the bar as they can't compete
with anything worth buying except automobiles) we could not find parts that
were CE Marked so we told that to Rolls and they ordered through their
Canada subsidiary but that doesn't exist any more.

But be as it may, we will try something like what you say as I'll be damned
if we will comply with REACH or RoHS (except for hex chromium, we did do
that as you can't get that plating any more (and it was a very good
anticorrosion plating and also a damned good paint primer).

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Smith [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:03 PM
To: Bob Landman
Cc: 'Gordon Davy'; Henning W Leidecker; Steve Karty @ home; tin whiskers
forum
Subject: Re: IPC Survey Reveals Electronics Industry Not Prepared for REACH

There are individual human beings that want to stay in communication with
each other, and do business with each other, and contribute to each others'
survival and expansion.

...and then, there are the suppressive people who just want to stop others
from reaching and expanding.

I for one am not inclined to agree with suppression, and so I seek ways to
continue in spite of counterintention.

Bob, You continue to offer your products in Europe, but you just change the
delivery terms. All sales will be made in U. S. dollars via a U. S. Bank,
and delivery to the customer or their representative will take place within
the U. S., its embassies or a Free Trade Zone.
You just make your products to meet U. S. standards. The folks in Europe who
want and need your unique products will find a way to get their rules
changed, for now European regulations will be seen be Europeans to be
suppressing Europeans, and they will find a way around it.

Rolls Royce and other such companies will find a way to get what they need,
and the door will open. You can help them by changing your delivery terms,
thus making them reach in spite of REACH.

Steve Smith

> Well, my friends, it looks like this new EU law will mean that my 
> small company (which has been in business since
> 1979) will not be able to sell in Europe any more.  There is no way we 
> can afford the manpower to make sure we comply
> with REACH.  I wonder when this madness will be a US requirement?   

> There is just one product we sell the EU and it's been a good 
> percentage of our overall sales. We have it CE Marked (and that cost 
> us to do that and served no real purpose). It's the turbine blade 
> video comparator 
> http://www.hlinstruments.com/products/comparators_01.html (Model
> 900B)

> As simple as the instrument seems to be, it's the only one of it's 
> kind in the world.  It has a small market but it is needed by what's 
> left of the airplane business after 9/11.  Rolls Royce buys it as do 
> blade repair stations.  We have a unit coming back for repair next 
> week from England.

> Well, there goes the old ball game I guess....

> How nice.

> Bob

> http://www.circuitnet.com/articles/article_51276.shtml

> July 29, 2008

> IPC Survey Reveals Electronics Industry Not Prepared for REACH

> A full report on the results of IPC's REACH preparedness survey is 
> available on IPC's website BANNOCKBURN, Ill., USA - Like a bolt of 
> lightning, the results of IPC's recent survey on REACH Preparedness in 
> the North American and European Interconnect Industry are striking - 
> revealing that more than 40 percent of manufacturing and purchasing 
> personnel have no understanding of the REACH regulation as it affects 
> their companies. The same holds true for nearly one-third of senior 
> management and 29 percent of engineering personnel. Even 28 percent of 
> environment, health and safety personnel have no understanding of 
> REACH's impact.
> The new European Union (EU) legislation concerning the Registration, 
> Evaluation, Authorization and Restriction of Chemicals (REACH) took 
> effect on June 1, 2007. The REACH regulation gives greater 
> responsibility to industry to manage the risks from chemicals and to 
> provide safety information on the substances.
> In contrast to RoHS, which covers a narrow scope of substances in 
> electronic products encompassing about 100 different chemicals, REACH 
> covers substances in nearly all applications, totaling about 30,000 
> unique chemicals. While RoHS can address entire classes of substances 
> at a time, REACH addresses them each individually. Where RoHS requires 
> supplier-to-customer communications, the REACH regulation makes 
> bidirectional communication throughout the supply chain imperative.
> "REACH will have a far-reaching effect on any company that buys sells 
> or uses chemicals," said Tony Hilvers, vice president of industry 
> programs for IPC. "Inevitably, all companies that use chemicals or 
> make products that contain chemicals will be affected .and that pretty 
> much sums up the entire electronics supply chain. The survey clearly 
> indicates that our industry is woefully unprepared for the hit it's about
to take."
> The electronic survey, sent to executives throughout the electronic 
> interconnect supply chain in North America and Europe, reveals that 
> even with a deadline for pre-registration of substances quickly 
> approaching, only 18.3 percent of companies have identified and/or 
> inventoried all substances in their products. In addition only 60.5 
> percent of chemical supplier respondents are planning to register or 
> pre-register substances at all.
> Stepping up efforts to help electronics companies prepare for REACH, 
> IPC has scheduled a number of programs in the coming months, including 
> a REACH Critical Update Webcast on pre-registration issues for PCB and 
> EMS suppliers, September 18, 2008, 1:30 pm-3:30 pm, Central time. A 
> number of sessions and meetings on REACH and other environmental 
> issues will also take place at IPC Midwest Conference & Exhibition, 
> September 21-25, 2008, at the Renaissance Schaumburg Hotel & 
> Convention Center, Schaumburg, Ill.
> In addition, IPC has launched a REACH Supply Chain Task Force to help 
> companies establish a path forward in addressing the impacts of REACH. 
> Representatives from the OEM, EMS, PCB and supplier industries make up 
> the task force. In a recent presentation to the task force, Design 
> Chain Associates'
> President Michael Kirschner reiterated a warning from a large computer 
> manufacturer that electronics executives should, "As completely as 
> possible, know what chemical substances your product is made of and 
> with . You eventually will be held responsible for every molecule of 
> your product."
> A full report on the results of IPC's REACH preparedness survey is 
> available on IPC's website at www.ipc.org/REACHsurveyreport. For more 
> information about the study, contact Sharon Starr, IPC director of 
> market research at +1 847-597-2817 or sharonstarr@xxxxxxxx More 
> information about the REACH Regulation can be found on IPC's 
> Environmental, Health and Safety webpage at www.ipc.org/EHS. For more 
> information on the upcoming REACH webcast, contact Susan Filz, IPC 
> director of industry programs at +1
> 847-597-2884 or susanfilz@xxxxxxxx For more information on the 
> environmental programs at IPC Midwest, contact Fern Abrams, IPC 
> director of government relations and environmental policy at +1 
> 703-522-0225 or fernabrams@xxxxxxx or visit
http://www.ipcmidwestshow.org/.
> Contact:
> IPC
> Anna Garrido
> http://www.ipc.org/

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