[THIN] Re: terminal servers vs. VMWare ACE
- From: Durf <stygmata@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:53:40 -0500
Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I was more looking at it as a way to
deploy an environment to guest, temporary or drop-in workers; also for
labs and training rooms.
The bit about the remote deployment is important, though - it may make
more sense to combine the two, and run a regular VMWare server
environment with multiple desktop instances, and allow the users to
connect to the instance via Remote Desktop etc.
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:44:14 -0800, Chris Lynch <lynch00@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> This is very true. I'm waiting for a Linux host version for ACE.
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> I can say that looking at ACE might be a good alternative to Terminal
> Services or MetaFrame. However, if you have clients across a WAN,
> and you want to deploy a Corporate application where the data is
> centrally located, using TS or MF makes better sense than using ACE.
> However, if you run into application compatibility issues where it
> does not run properly on the TS/MF server, then ACE might be an
> alternative.
>
> But, does it really make sense to use ACE just to deploy one or two
> applications in a controlled environment? Maybe. This all depends
> on other mitigating factors (time to deployment, administration,
> maintenance, etc).
>
> Chris
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:32 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: terminal servers vs. VMWare ACE
> >
> > They are not really competitive products. In retrospect, the
> > two products can complement each other. Also keep in mind,
> > in addition to the management server and ACE Client license
> > you have to purchase an additional OS license.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Durf
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:29 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] terminal servers vs. VMWare ACE
> >
> > Hi folks;
> >
> > Is anyone out there looking at VMWare ACE as an alternative
> > to Citrix / Terminal Services?
> > (http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ace_features.html)
> >
> > The possiblity of being able to provide a user with a session
> > that is, in essence, their own complete virtual PC is pretty
> > irresistable.
> >
> > The two primary objections would seem to be scalability and
> > cost -- while I can cram 30 average users onto a DL380, how
> > many ACE desktop sessions of XP would I be able to get for
> > the same dollars, licensing fees aside?
> >
> > Bandwidth would also be an issue, but I assume the package
> > that is delivered to the client is accessed through a remote
> > viewing app, and if it isn't, it could be (just install VNC
> > on the virtual desktop, Remote Desktop...)
> >
> > The featureset is so complelling, I do wonder if it is worth
> > the price point. Of course there are also various
> > combinations, as you can run a Virtual Terminal Server, but
> > the model I'm thinking of is specifically running virtual
> > Desktop OS sessions for end-users.
> >
> > Would anyone be tempted to swap, right now, if the Big Boss
> > came downstairs, frustrated with Terminal Services problems
> > and waving around a copy of a review of VMWare ACE and a budget?
> >
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