Joe, Did we determine if that is over and above the ACE per client cost or included? Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:32 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: terminal servers vs. VMWare ACE They are not really competitive products. In retrospect, the two products can complement each other. Also keep in mind, in addition to the management server and ACE Client license you have to purchase an additional OS license. Joe -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Durf Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:29 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] terminal servers vs. VMWare ACE Hi folks; Is anyone out there looking at VMWare ACE as an alternative to Citrix / Terminal Services? (http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ace_features.html) The possiblity of being able to provide a user with a session that is, in essence, their own complete virtual PC is pretty irresistable. The two primary objections would seem to be scalability and cost -- while I can cram 30 average users onto a DL380, how many ACE desktop sessions of XP would I be able to get for the same dollars, licensing fees aside? Bandwidth would also be an issue, but I assume the package that is delivered to the client is accessed through a remote viewing app, and if it isn't, it could be (just install VNC on the virtual desktop, Remote Desktop...) The featureset is so complelling, I do wonder if it is worth the price point. Of course there are also various combinations, as you can run a Virtual Terminal Server, but the model I'm thinking of is specifically running virtual Desktop OS sessions for end-users. Would anyone be tempted to swap, right now, if the Big Boss came downstairs, frustrated with Terminal Services problems and waving around a copy of a review of VMWare ACE and a budget? -- -------------- 'The difference between theory and practice is larger in practice than it is in theory.' ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor SeamlessPlanet.com Domain Names Register your .com domain name for as low as $7.85 One of the lowest prices on the web! Part of The Kenzig Group. http://www.seamlessplanet.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Awesome SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor SeamlessPlanet.com Domain Names Register your .com domain name for as low as $7.85 One of the lowest prices on the web! Part of The Kenzig Group. http://www.seamlessplanet.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Awesome SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor SeamlessPlanet.com Domain Names Register your .com domain name for as low as $7.85 One of the lowest prices on the web! Part of The Kenzig Group. http://www.seamlessplanet.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Awesome SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm