Guys Thanks for the responses. We want to restrict unc paths when you
are within a Citrix published app. We only want to do this when a a user
comes in via our Juniper box.
The reason for this is using Juniper we currently only use it to access
citrix published apps. Of course we can 'publish' folders but could we then
get it to launch a citrix app? Then we would have to restrict all access
when you were within say word within citrix.
Is a CAG/AAC more flexible than juniper and more easily integrated with
PS? Any easy ways you can see on how to restrict access to some data and
make sure it never leaves our own network in conjunction with citrix apps?
Malcolm
-----Original Message-----
*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Steve Greenberg
*Sent:* 10 September 2006 17:24
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: UNC Blocking with external access only
Well the original post doesn't give a lot detail but keep in mind that it
is possible to make PS use CAG/AAC so it can be done, i.e. distinguish
where the user is coming from and assign the rights accordingly.....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
*Sent:* Sunday, September 10, 2006 6:44 AM
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: UNC Blocking with external access only
that is how I read it also which is why I keep specifying that, from
within the published application, CAG and/or AAC would not be of any help.
As well, I believe what Steve is saying is only available through CAG
standalone not with AAC but I may be wrong on that but I'm pretty sure I'm
not. heh
Jeff Pitsch
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On 9/10/06, *Andrew Wood* <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Which is what the juniper does - but thats not what Malcolm wanted - he
wanted to be able to control access to UNCs within the published app if I
read it correctly.
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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Steve Greenberg
*Sent:* 10 September 2006 00:32
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: UNC Blocking with external access only
I was referring to VPN mode, you can make specific CIFS shares available
as resources.....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
*Sent:* Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:31 AM
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: UNC Blocking with external access only
You can control UNC's from the NavUI but NOT from within published
applications.
Jeff Pitsch
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On 9/8/06, *Steve Greenberg* < steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
But AAC can provide access to specific folders and files and apply
granular read, print, save, edit, rights, etc.
Also, it can provide access to only specific UNC paths when used in VPN
mode....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
*Sent:* Friday, September 08, 2006 2:02 PM
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: UNC Blocking with external access only
AAC doesn't do anything with published apps outside of letting you control
what apps get published based on the AAC filters and applying Citrix
policies based on AAC filters. It would not modify any sort of
functionality within the application itself. You have misunderstood what I
was trying to say.
AAC can do checks but they are based on some sort of value. For instance,
a version of McAfee or Firewall. If those values change on the client side,
then you must also know the change has happened so you can adjust your EPA
scans. Otherwise, the EPA's will fail and the users won't get access.
Jeff Pitsch
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On 9/7/06, *Andrew Wood* < andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I thought AAC would allow you to do clever checks on the endpoint - I
didn't realise it'd be able to modify functionality within an individual
published application?
The way I was thinking of would be to redirect your users to different
citrix servers based on their source location. The sensitive users would be
directed to servers with an lmhosts file that 'blocked' the UNC by
overriding the source name's IP resolution.
messy mind.
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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
*Sent:* 06 September 2006 18:41
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: UNC Blocking with external access only
The only way that I'm aware of to control that type of access through
Presetnation Server is using AAC. You can then use the filters within AAC
on your published applications.
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On 9/6/06, *BRUTON, Malcolm, GBM* < Malcolm.BRUTON@xxxxxxxx > wrote:
I asumme this is if you are publishing folders on Juniper? We publish
Citrix apps on Juniper only....So the control really needs to be within the
citrix session.
Further ideas?
-----Original Message-----
*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Andrew Wood
*Sent:* 06 September 2006 14:07
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: UNC Blocking with external access only
A Juniper device'll let you do it as well won't it? You can allow unc
access and then define roles that would allow access to those resources. You
could either allow full network browse access - or publish the folder
themselves iirc.
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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *BRUTON, Malcolm, GBM
*Sent:* 06 September 2006 13:51
*To:* ' thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
*Subject:* [THIN] UNC Blocking with external access only
All
We are after a product that will allow us block sensitive unc's for
users. This of course needs to differ depending on if the user is internal
or external.
When they are external they connect to Citrix via Juniper. When they are
internal they use either normal desktops or Citrix.
I believe by using CAG with AAC we can do this.
Can anybody suggest any other software\hardware\methods that we could to
achieve this?
Malcolm
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