Greg, One thing I might add to the QoS solution is to evaluate a Packeteer PacketShaper. This box can give you the visibility you need to help identify and possibly fix your WAN Citrix problems (you get visibility on how the client is connecting, performing, and at what speed they connect). Most of the time it isn't ICA, but rather other applications competing for the bandwidth. Evaluations are free, so you might as well give it a try, if not to only see what's going on. Also, you won't have to change ISP's in order to do this and you do not need a box at both ends. Only on the side where the Citrix Server Farm is located. Check it out at www.packeteer.com Best regards, Randy -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lucas Boyken Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:06 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Disconnects Greg, Look at your connection to the internet both at the provider side (citrix server) and client side. Are all your users that are having problems going through the same provider? Has anything changed as far as your connection to the INet goes with the Citrix server? Have you run any tests are logging software to track the performance on both ends? These are some things I would look into. We have several customers that are expiriencing intermittant problems due to the ISP they have chosen. No way around it other than working with the ISP (not a great chance as they are trying to do things as cheaply as possible) or go with a better QoS ISP. Hope this helps a little. Respectfully, Lucas W. Boyken Computer Systems Associates Account Manager / Technical Representative lboyken@xxxxxxxxx Company Phone: 800.222.7601 Office Phone: 515.332.2751 Fax: 515.332.5687 -----Original Message----- From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:31 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Disconnects lately, anyone connecting to my citrix servers over the internet has been experiencing a lot of disconnects. It happens to people running WinXP, Win2000, WIn98 etc. All clients are feeling the pain. It also happens to nFuse users, users with Program Neighborhood, and users with a custom .ica file. It happens the same way every time, it happens to me too so I know my users aren't crazy (at least not this time). While working along typing or whatever, the session just appears to freeze. Nothing, completely dead. If I click the close button and click yes to disconnect and then reconnect, I am right back where I was. I just can't figure out why the session dies in the first place. It has been working fine for well over a year. It has just been the past month or so that it began doing this. I do have TCPMAxRetranmissions and ICAKeepalives setup. I am running WIn2kSP2, MF XPa SP2/FR2. I have been trying everything I can think of but still nothing so maybe someone can help me out with a fresh angle to attack this from. Thanks! Greg ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - IDP ServerBoss Restrict, Manage and Control Access to your applications and other valuable Citrix, Windows NT, 2000 and 2003 Server Resources http://www.serverboss.com/default.asp?partner=thethin ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - IDP ServerBoss Restrict, Manage and Control Access to your applications and other valuable Citrix, Windows NT, 2000 and 2003 Server Resources http://www.serverboss.com/default.asp?partner=thethin ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm