I still say it would be better if there was a XP version of Virtuozzo instead of a skinned version of Windows 2003. What advantage would Virtuozzo for VDI have over a conventional SBC Desktop? I would say from a Presentation Server vs XenDesktop standpoint, PS with Virtuozzo would be a better solution that Virtuozzo and XenDesktop. Why? Because you can publish applications (set up each VE as a 1 user terminal server for application isolation). I?m not disputing that Virtuozzo isn?t efficient and scalable but you have to consider why it is you?re choosing a VDI solution over a SBC solution. What is it you?re getting out of a VDI solution that you can?t get out of SBC? Virtuozzo is a moot point because everything it offers for a VDI solution, it also offers for SBC. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:19 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Desktop Hi Mads, NO argument, Virtuozzo is brilliant from a scalability and efficiency viewpoint, particularly when compared to using hypervisors. Because you're doing operating system partitioning instead of hosting separate instances of an operating system, it's nearly as scalable as terminal services. I was a fan of Virtuozzo years before SWsoft became Parallels. Nevertheless, it's more a virtualization platform than a VDI product because it's missing a lot of the little bits that round out a complete solution VDI solution. Stuff like published applications, UPD USB redirection, multi-media support etc. If you add Provision Network's VAS, which links into Virtuozzo, then you have a real VDI solution ;-) regards, Rick -- Ulrich Mack Quest Software Provision Networks Division On 3/31/08, Mads Sørensen <gasmadske@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Now we are talking VDI products, I think one of the best VDI products out there right now is "Parallels Virtuozzo 4.0", The beauty is that it uses the container technology on a Windows Server 2003 and with almost no overhead. So with a Windows Server 2003 Datacenter license and the XP Theme service, you can start as many desktops as you want or twice as many as you could with some other VDI software on one server :-). It has a really good management interface and I could go on. But as Rick also writes it may not be the place to discuss this.. so I'll stop her.. but it's really worth taking a look at. /Mads