No. That is a very real problem If you don't get your servers back, you don't have a business. This should be one of the lessons learned from the tragedy of 9/11. Mark At 7/25/2002 11:28 AM, you wrote: >Really, if your building burns down and takes 300 servers with it... I think >you got more to deal with that to worry about ghost images. > >Joe > >-----Original Message----- >From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:56 AM >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups > > > >This completely overlooks the problem that occurs when you standardize on >300 Servers and 2 or 3 years later, your entire building burns down and now >you want to re-use images on hardware that is simply unobtainable. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:53 AM >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups > > >I not quite sure how unlike hardware, multiple servers etc came into the >mix.. But I think everyone is missing the point.. If you are using ghost >as part of your DR plan you wouldn't using different hardware... Most >likely, you have a service plan with your vendor.. If a Raid >controller/MB/etc frys. They you replace the bad components and download >the ghost image. If you introduce a new platform, then you would create a >new image. Granted there will be a few images created, but not nearly as >many as there are servers... With 300 servers, there is something to be >said about standardization. Keep in mind, the image is just the base OS... > From there, you can use backup to restore data, registry, etc... or use a >software distribution packages (like IM for MF) to distribute and setup you >applications. > >Joe > >-----Original Message----- >From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:37 AM >To: ''thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ' >Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups > > > > >We have an infrastructure with probably at least 300 >NT servers. Probably 25 differnt versions of Compaqs. >We can't afford to have a double of every type of >server, nor is it possible, so we can restore to like >hardware. Even like hardware restores are far from perfect. >We also have somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 different >applications - yeah, we can reinstall all of them, but that >just goes to show how poor restores are. Try NT backup >against unlike hardware and see what a mess you get. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe Shonk >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >Sent: 7/25/2002 9:55 AM >Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups > >How so? NTBackup works just fine... Never had a problem with it... > >Joe > >-----Original Message----- >From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:56 AM >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >Subject: [THIN] Backups > > > > > Thanks everyone for their backup info. 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