[THIN] Re: Backups

  • From: "Greg Reese" <GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:59:52 -0400

IBM has something called Bare Metal as part of their Tivoli backup which =
is supposed to be just for that situation.  It will reimage a server =
regardless of platform or hardware.

I don't know much about it.  It was overkill for my little installation =
but if you are looking for something to do that, if might be worth =
looking into.

-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:56 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups



This completely overlooks the problem that occurs when you standardize =
on
300 Servers and 2 or 3 years later, your entire building burns down and =
now
you want to re-use images on hardware that is simply unobtainable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:53 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups


I not quite sure how unlike hardware, multiple servers etc came into the
mix..  But I think everyone is missing the point..  If you are using =
ghost
as part of your DR plan you wouldn't using different hardware...  Most
likely, you have a service plan with your vendor.. If a Raid
controller/MB/etc frys.  They you replace the bad components and =
download
the ghost image.  If you introduce a new platform, then you would create =
a
new image.  Granted there will be a few images created, but not nearly =
as
many as there are servers...  With 300 servers, there is something to be
said about standardization.  Keep in mind, the image is just the base =
OS...
From there, you can use backup to restore data, registry, etc...  or use =
a
software distribution packages (like IM for MF) to distribute and setup =
you
applications.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:37 AM
To: ''thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' '
Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups




We have an infrastructure with probably at least 300
NT servers. Probably 25 differnt versions of Compaqs.
We can't afford to have a double of every type of
server, nor is it possible, so we can restore to like=20
hardware. Even like hardware restores are far from perfect.
We also have somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 different
applications - yeah, we can reinstall all of them, but that
just goes to show how poor restores are. Try NT backup
against unlike hardware and see what a mess you get.=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: 7/25/2002 9:55 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups

How so?  NTBackup works just fine...  Never had a problem with it...

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:56 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Backups




        Thanks everyone for their backup info. Sounds like Microsoft is
screwing us all with
        a product that can't easily or reliably be restored......




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