IBM has something called Bare Metal as part of their Tivoli backup which = is supposed to be just for that situation. It will reimage a server = regardless of platform or hardware. I don't know much about it. It was overkill for my little installation = but if you are looking for something to do that, if might be worth = looking into. -----Original Message----- From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:56 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups This completely overlooks the problem that occurs when you standardize = on 300 Servers and 2 or 3 years later, your entire building burns down and = now you want to re-use images on hardware that is simply unobtainable. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:53 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups I not quite sure how unlike hardware, multiple servers etc came into the mix.. But I think everyone is missing the point.. If you are using = ghost as part of your DR plan you wouldn't using different hardware... Most likely, you have a service plan with your vendor.. If a Raid controller/MB/etc frys. They you replace the bad components and = download the ghost image. If you introduce a new platform, then you would create = a new image. Granted there will be a few images created, but not nearly = as many as there are servers... With 300 servers, there is something to be said about standardization. Keep in mind, the image is just the base = OS... From there, you can use backup to restore data, registry, etc... or use = a software distribution packages (like IM for MF) to distribute and setup = you applications. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:37 AM To: ''thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ' Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups We have an infrastructure with probably at least 300 NT servers. Probably 25 differnt versions of Compaqs. We can't afford to have a double of every type of server, nor is it possible, so we can restore to like=20 hardware. Even like hardware restores are far from perfect. We also have somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 different applications - yeah, we can reinstall all of them, but that just goes to show how poor restores are. Try NT backup against unlike hardware and see what a mess you get.=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shonk To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Sent: 7/25/2002 9:55 AM Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups How so? NTBackup works just fine... Never had a problem with it... Joe -----Original Message----- From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:56 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Backups Thanks everyone for their backup info. 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