Really, if your building burns down and takes 300 servers with it... I think you got more to deal with that to worry about ghost images. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:56 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups This completely overlooks the problem that occurs when you standardize on 300 Servers and 2 or 3 years later, your entire building burns down and now you want to re-use images on hardware that is simply unobtainable. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:53 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups I not quite sure how unlike hardware, multiple servers etc came into the mix.. But I think everyone is missing the point.. If you are using ghost as part of your DR plan you wouldn't using different hardware... Most likely, you have a service plan with your vendor.. If a Raid controller/MB/etc frys. They you replace the bad components and download the ghost image. If you introduce a new platform, then you would create a new image. Granted there will be a few images created, but not nearly as many as there are servers... With 300 servers, there is something to be said about standardization. Keep in mind, the image is just the base OS... From there, you can use backup to restore data, registry, etc... or use a software distribution packages (like IM for MF) to distribute and setup you applications. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:37 AM To: ''thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ' Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups We have an infrastructure with probably at least 300 NT servers. Probably 25 differnt versions of Compaqs. We can't afford to have a double of every type of server, nor is it possible, so we can restore to like hardware. Even like hardware restores are far from perfect. We also have somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 different applications - yeah, we can reinstall all of them, but that just goes to show how poor restores are. Try NT backup against unlike hardware and see what a mess you get. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shonk To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Sent: 7/25/2002 9:55 AM Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups How so? NTBackup works just fine... Never had a problem with it... Joe -----Original Message----- From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:56 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Backups Thanks everyone for their backup info. Sounds like Microsoft is screwing us all with a product that can't easily or reliably be restored...... =================================== This weeks Sponsor: triCerat, Inc ScrewDrivers fxp: Self Configuring Printer Driver with Bandwidth Control Learn more at: http://www.tricerat.com/?page=products&product=sdfxp =================================== For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm =================================== This weeks Sponsor: triCerat, Inc ScrewDrivers fxp: Self Configuring Printer Driver with Bandwidth Control Learn more at: http://www.tricerat.com/?page=products&product=sdfxp =================================== For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm =================================== This weeks Sponsor: triCerat, Inc ScrewDrivers fxp: Self Configuring Printer Driver with Bandwidth Control Learn more at: http://www.tricerat.com/?page=products&product=sdfxp =================================== For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm =================================== This weeks Sponsor: triCerat, Inc ScrewDrivers fxp: Self Configuring Printer Driver with Bandwidth Control Learn more at: http://www.tricerat.com/?page=products&product=sdfxp =================================== For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm =================================== This weeks Sponsor: triCerat, Inc ScrewDrivers fxp: Self Configuring Printer Driver with Bandwidth Control Learn more at: http://www.tricerat.com/?page=products&product=sdfxp =================================== For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm =================================== This weeks Sponsor: triCerat, Inc ScrewDrivers fxp: Self Configuring Printer Driver with Bandwidth Control Learn more at: http://www.tricerat.com/?page=products&product=sdfxp =================================== For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm