[THIN] Re: Backups
- From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:48:09 -0700
Correct, and like I said before... You DR plan will account for it.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Saltzman [mailto:Mark.Saltzman@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:34 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups
No. That is a very real problem If you don't get your servers back, you
don't have a business. This should be one of the lessons learned from the
tragedy of 9/11.
Mark
At 7/25/2002 11:28 AM, you wrote:
>Really, if your building burns down and takes 300 servers with it... I
think
>you got more to deal with that to worry about ghost images.
>
>Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:56 AM
>To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups
>
>
>
>This completely overlooks the problem that occurs when you standardize on
>300 Servers and 2 or 3 years later, your entire building burns down and now
>you want to re-use images on hardware that is simply unobtainable.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:53 AM
>To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups
>
>
>I not quite sure how unlike hardware, multiple servers etc came into the
>mix.. But I think everyone is missing the point.. If you are using ghost
>as part of your DR plan you wouldn't using different hardware... Most
>likely, you have a service plan with your vendor.. If a Raid
>controller/MB/etc frys. They you replace the bad components and download
>the ghost image. If you introduce a new platform, then you would create a
>new image. Granted there will be a few images created, but not nearly as
>many as there are servers... With 300 servers, there is something to be
>said about standardization. Keep in mind, the image is just the base OS...
> From there, you can use backup to restore data, registry, etc... or use a
>software distribution packages (like IM for MF) to distribute and setup you
>applications.
>
>Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:37 AM
>To: ''thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' '
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups
>
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>We have an infrastructure with probably at least 300
>NT servers. Probably 25 differnt versions of Compaqs.
>We can't afford to have a double of every type of
>server, nor is it possible, so we can restore to like
>hardware. Even like hardware restores are far from perfect.
>We also have somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 different
>applications - yeah, we can reinstall all of them, but that
>just goes to show how poor restores are. Try NT backup
>against unlike hardware and see what a mess you get.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Shonk
>To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Sent: 7/25/2002 9:55 AM
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Backups
>
>How so? NTBackup works just fine... Never had a problem with it...
>
>Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Turman, David C. [mailto:david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:56 AM
>To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Subject: [THIN] Backups
>
>
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>
> Thanks everyone for their backup info. Sounds like Microsoft is
>screwing us all with
> a product that can't easily or reliably be restored......
>
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