[THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
- From: <mach1-70@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:17:50 -0600 (CST)
I tested / deployed parts of PS 4.5 in a new farm...I didn't risk introducting
4.5 into my 4.0 farm and I am glad that I didn't...I echo all the concerns from
below and then some as I experienced them as well....Some additional issues
that I experienced was random lockups / lots of seamless issues (if you can't
be on the bleeding edge of the client version then you will have issues)...The
taskbar issue below was the straw for us as we applied all the fixes / rollups
that Citrix support could throw at us and it did not resolve the issue...We
have had a case open with escalation for months in regards to installation
manager....I have never opened so many support cases as I have for 4.5...The
AMC is crap and dog slow compared to the CMC and you have to use both....One
other post I read here said it quite accurately...If you do not need the
features that 4.5 brings then steer clear...Our organization is not persuing
4.5 - hopefully all the bugs are corrected by ver 5
From: "Selinger, Stephen" <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2007/11/30 Fri AM 11:26:30 CST
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
Could you please expand on: "Make sure you check the PS 4.5 Load evaluators
in the PS 4.5 CMC. These have Load Throttling enabled and this isnt visible in
the PS 4 CMC. The default load throttling settings can cause some interesting
results at logon time"Â What interesting results have you seen? What was your
workaround to these issues if any? Thanks!
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
M
Sent:November 29, 2007 2:20 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:[THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
My little bit of input ..... As well as what has been mentioned and depending
on your Farm components / design. Always test first before introducing to your
live Farm. Have you got a test farm to test with ? The majority of the CMC
functions have moved to the AMC and this can be quite confusing if you havent
used it before.Some functions still remain in the PS 4.5 CMC - Installation
Manager Package deployment, Load Evaluators, Printer settings,RM Summary
Database settings, Isolation Environments , Some Zone settings remain as
well. If you use Resource Manager update your RM server before your
application servers.Also be aware of the following with PS 4.5 RM
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113003&printable=true Keep the PS 4.5
servers in seperate Zones from the PS 4 servers. Dedicate ZDCs if you can (
depends on farm size / design etc etc)Â Test your Applications first with PS
4.5 Rollup 1. Rollup 1 breaks some applications and you may get issues with
applications that cover the taskbar. Post Rollup 1 patches fix these issues.
The Citrix foums have lots of interesting posts about broken applications.
Review the Post Rollup 1 hotfixes. Installation Manager is broken with PS 4.5
. Rollup 1 also needs a private hotfix if your pushing MSI files with
transforms and / or you have an IM account with a large number of characters or
the password has non std characters (this didnt get fixed properly in rollup
1). Read the Rollup 1 read me as well. Applications published in the PS 4.5
Access Management Console cannot be modified by the PS 4 CMC. You also cant
drag a published app created in the PS 4.5 AMC to a server in the PS 4 CMC. PS
4.5 Policies have new features that arent visible in the PS 4 CMC. Check out
the Speedscreen options (lossy compression). Make sure you check the PS 4.5
Load evaluators in the PS 4.5 CMC. These have Load Throttling enabled and this
isnt visible in the PS 4 CMC. The default load throttling settings can cause
some interesting results at logon time. If your using 64 bit 2003 + PS 4.5 the
hotfixes release dates can lag a bit behind the 32 bit versions. Have fun....
i did  ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew McComas To:
thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:21 PM Subject:
[THIN] 4.0 to 4.5 questions
Greetings:
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According to the Citrix web site upgrading from CPS 4.0 to 4.5 appears to be
very seamless…I have a few questions however that perhaps one of you can
answer:
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1.      When you install CPS 4.5 on a server and join it to the CPS
4.0 farm does it upgrade the CPS 4.0 database in any way?
2.      Rather than having a big upgrade weekend, I was considering
building a 4.5 image, and just rolling it out to our servers a few at a time,
until all are converted. At what point should the ZDC be upgraded, or does
this even matter?
3.      Are there any other “gotchas†we should be aware of when
planning the deployment? (BTW – our farm is running on Server 2003 R2 /
fully patched up)
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Thanks,
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Matt McComas
Information Technology
Westdale Asset Management, Ltd.
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