[THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
- From: "Mike Semon" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 07:15:55 -0600
I have just finished upgrading a farm from 4.0 to 4.5 No problems. Reallocated
the licenses, reinstalled the license server and ran the upgrade on the
Presentation servers. Ran the first upgrade on the Farm metric server. There is
no rush to 4.5 unless you want some of the new features
of 4.5.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Berny Stapleton
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:08 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
I believe the next version of Presentation Server will be dependent
upon Windows Server 2008, and not 2003. There will be updates and
feature releases for 4.0 and 4.5 still. In the long term though, 4.5
is the last release of Presentation Server 4.5 and given it's release
date will be supported for longer than 4.0.
What's the rush to get to 4.5? It's not like it's unsupported or anything...
On 06/12/2007, IT Support <it@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> We're planning on migrating from 4 to a new 4.5 farm.
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> Should we wait for 5 instead?
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> Are there any firm release dates yet?
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> Cheers.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of mach1-70@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> Sent: 30 November 2007 21:18
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> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
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> I tested / deployed parts of PS 4.5 in a new farm...I didn't risk
> introducting 4.5 into my 4.0 farm and I am glad that I didn't...I echo all
> the concerns from below and then some as I experienced them as well....Some
> additional issues that I experienced was random lockups / lots of seamless
> issues (if you can't be on the bleeding edge of the client version then you
> will have issues)...The taskbar issue below was the straw for us as we
> applied all the fixes / rollups that Citrix support could throw at us and it
> did not resolve the issue...We have had a case open with escalation for
> months in regards to installation manager....I have never opened so many
> support cases as I have for 4.5...The AMC is crap and dog slow compared to
> the CMC and you have to use both....One other post I read here said it quite
> accurately...If you do not need the features that 4.5 brings then steer
> clear...Our organization is not persuing 4.5 - hopefully all the bugs are
> corrected by ver 5
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> From: "Selinger, Stephen" <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Date: 2007/11/30 Fri AM 11:26:30 CST
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> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
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> Could you please expand on: "Make sure you check the PS 4.5 Load
> evaluators in the PS 4.5 CMC. These have Load Throttling enabled and this
> isnt visible in the PS 4 CMC. The default load throttling settings can
> cause some interesting results at logon time"Â What interesting results have
> you seen? What was your workaround to these issues if any? Thanks!
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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of M
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> Sent:November 29, 2007 2:20 PM
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> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject:[THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions
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> My little bit of input ..... As well as what has been mentioned and
> depending on your Farm components / design. Always test first before
> introducing to your live Farm. Have you got a test farm to test with ? The
> majority of the CMC functions have moved to the AMC and this can be quite
> confusing if you havent used it before.Some functions still remain in the PS
> 4.5 CMC - Installation Manager Package deployment, Load Evaluators, Printer
> settings,RM Summary Database settings, Isolation Environments , Some Zone
> settings remain as well. If you use Resource Manager update your RM server
> before your application servers.Also be aware of the following with PS 4.5
> RM
> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113003&printable=trueÂ;
> Keep the PS 4.5 servers in seperate Zones from the PS 4 servers. Dedicate
> ZDCs if you can ( depends on farm size / design etc etc)Â Test your
> Applications first with PS 4.5 Rollup 1. Rollup 1 breaks some applications
> and you may get issues with applications that cover the taskbar. Post Rollup
> 1 patches fix these issues. The Citrix foums have lots of interesting posts
> about broken applications. Review the Post Rollup 1 hotfixes. Installation
> Manager is broken with PS 4.5 . Rollup 1 also needs a private hotfix if
> your pushing MSI files with transforms and / or you have an IM account with
> a large number of characters or the password has non std characters (this
> didnt get fixed properly in rollup 1). Read the Rollup 1 read me as well.Â
> Applications published in the PS 4.5 Access Management Console cannot be
> modified by the PS 4 CMC. You also cant drag a published app created in the
> PS 4.5 AMC to a server in the PS 4 CMC. PS 4.5 Policies have new features
> that arent visible in the PS 4 CMC. Check out the Speedscreen options (lossy
> compression). Make sure you check the PS 4.5 Load evaluators in the PS
> 4.5 CMC. These have Load Throttling enabled and this isnt visible in the PS
> 4 CMC. The default load throttling settings can cause some interesting
> results at logon time. If your using 64 bit 2003 + PS 4.5 the hotfixes
> release dates can lag a bit behind the 32 bit versions. Have fun.... i
> did  ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew McComas To:
> thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:21 PM Subject:
> [THIN] 4.0 to 4.5 questions
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> Greetings:
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> According to the Citrix web site upgrading from CPS 4.0 to 4.5 appears to
> be very seamless…I have a few questions however that perhaps one of you
> can answer:
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> 1.      When you install CPS 4.5 on a server and join it to the
> CPS 4.0 farm does it upgrade the CPS 4.0 database in any way?
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> 2.      Rather than having a big upgrade weekend, I was
> considering building a 4.5 image, and just rolling it out to our servers a
> few at a time, until all are converted. At what point should the ZDC be
> upgraded, or does this even matter?
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> 3.      Are there any other “gotchas†we should be aware of
> when planning the deployment? (BTW â€" our farm is running on Server 2003
> R2 / fully patched up)
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> Thanks,
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> Matt McComas
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> Information Technology
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> Westdale Asset Management, Ltd.
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