When you say 5, I assume you mean the Parra release. Parra is not scheduled until 2009. Any release between now and then will assume that PS 4.5 is already installed. Feature Pack 1 is an example of that. On 12/6/07, Mike Semon <msemon@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I have just finished upgrading a farm from 4.0 to 4.5 No problems. > Reallocated the licenses, reinstalled the license server and ran the upgrade > on the Presentation servers. Ran the first upgrade on the Farm metric > server. There is no rush to 4.5 unless you want some of the new features > of 4.5. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Berny Stapleton > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:08 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions > > I believe the next version of Presentation Server will be dependent > upon Windows Server 2008, and not 2003. There will be updates and > feature releases for 4.0 and 4.5 still. In the long term though, 4.5 > is the last release of Presentation Server 4.5 and given it's release > date will be supported for longer than 4.0. > > What's the rush to get to 4.5? It's not like it's unsupported or > anything... > > > On 06/12/2007, IT Support <it@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > We're planning on migrating from 4 to a new 4.5 farm. > > > > > > > > Should we wait for 5 instead? > > > > > > > > Are there any firm release dates yet? > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > > Of mach1-70@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sent: 30 November 2007 21:18 > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions > > > > > > > > I tested / deployed parts of PS 4.5 in a new farm...I didn't risk > > introducting 4.5 into my 4.0 farm and I am glad that I didn't...I echo > all > > the concerns from below and then some as I experienced them as > well....Some > > additional issues that I experienced was random lockups / lots of > seamless > > issues (if you can't be on the bleeding edge of the client version then > you > > will have issues)...The taskbar issue below was the straw for us as we > > applied all the fixes / rollups that Citrix support could throw at us > and it > > did not resolve the issue...We have had a case open with escalation for > > months in regards to installation manager....I have never opened so many > > support cases as I have for 4.5...The AMC is crap and dog slow compared > to > > the CMC and you have to use both....One other post I read here said it > quite > > accurately...If you do not need the features that 4.5 brings then steer > > clear...Our organization is not persuing 4.5 - hopefully all the bugs > are > > corrected by ver 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Selinger, Stephen" <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > Date: 2007/11/30 Fri AM 11:26:30 CST > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions > > > > > > > > Could you please expand on: "Make sure you check the PS 4.5 Load > > evaluators in the PS 4.5 CMC. These have Load Throttling enabled and > this > > isnt visible in the PS 4 CMC. The default load throttling settings can > > cause some interesting results at logon time" What interesting results > have > > you seen? What was your workaround to these issues if any? Thanks! > > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > > Of M > > > > Sent:November 29, 2007 2:20 PM > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject:[THIN] Re: 4.0 to 4.5 questions > > > > > > > > My little bit of input ..... As well as what has been mentioned and > > depending on your Farm components / design. Always test first before > > introducing to your live Farm. Have you got a test farm to test with ? > The > > majority of the CMC functions have moved to the AMC and this can be > quite > > confusing if you havent used it before.Some functions still remain in > the PS > > 4.5 CMC - Installation Manager Package deployment, Load Evaluators, > Printer > > settings,RM Summary Database settings, Isolation Environments , Some > Zone > > settings remain as well. If you use Resource Manager update your RM > server > > before your application servers.Also be aware of the following with PS > 4.5 > > RM > > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113003&printable=trueÂ; > > Keep the PS 4.5 servers in seperate Zones from the PS 4 servers. > Dedicate > > ZDCs if you can ( depends on farm size / design etc etc) Test your > > Applications first with PS 4.5 Rollup 1. Rollup 1 breaks some > applications > > and you may get issues with applications that cover the taskbar. Post > Rollup > > 1 patches fix these issues. The Citrix foums have lots of interesting > posts > > about broken applications. Review the Post Rollup 1 hotfixes.ÂInstallation > > Manager is broken with PS 4.5 . Rollup 1 also needs a private hotfix if > > your pushing MSI files with transforms and / or you have an IM account > with > > a large number of characters or the password has non std characters > (this > > didnt get fixed properly in rollup 1). Read the Rollup 1 read me as > well. > > Applications published in the PS 4.5 Access Management Console cannot be > > modified by the PS 4 CMC. You also cant drag a published app created in > the > > PS 4.5 AMC to a server in the PS 4 CMC. PS 4.5 Policies have new > features > > that arent visible in the PS 4 CMC. Check out the Speedscreen options > (lossy > > compression). Make sure you check the PS 4.5 Load evaluators in the > PS > > 4.5 CMC. These have Load Throttling enabled and this isnt visible in the > PS > > 4 CMC. The default load throttling settings can cause some interesting > > results at logon time. If your using 64 bit 2003 + PS 4.5 the hotfixes > > release dates can lag a bit behind the 32 bit versions. Have fun.... i > > did  ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew McComas To: > > thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:21 > PM Subject: > > [THIN] 4.0 to 4.5 questions > > > > > > > > Greetings: > > > >  > > > > According to the Citrix web site upgrading from CPS 4.0 to 4.5 appears > to > > be very seamless…I have a few questions however that perhaps one of > you > > can answer: > > > >  > > > > 1.      When you install CPS 4.5 on a server and join it to > the > > CPS 4.0 farm does it upgrade the CPS 4.0 database in any way? > > > > 2.      Rather than having a big upgrade weekend, I was > > considering building a 4.5 image, and just rolling it out to our servers > a > > few at a time, until all are converted. At what point should the ZDC > be > > upgraded, or does this even matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.      Are there any other “gotchas†we should be aware of > > when planning the deployment? (BTW â€" our farm is running on Server > 2003 > > R2 / fully patched up) > > > >  > > > > Thanks, > > > >  > > > > Matt McComas > > > > Information Technology > > > > Westdale Asset Management, Ltd. > > > >  > > > > This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it > is > > addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and or privileged > > information. 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