i will try to answer this best i can . . . i am responsible for that site being on the map to begin with because it allows early a.m./late p.m./weekend access to birding some of the ponds at the Heart of the Hills Fisheries Research Center . . . unfortunately/fortunately it is the only access/location for a number of species in kerr county there is a caretaker who was hired/moved in a couple years after the maps were produced. he has taken it upon himself to shoo people away. i think he tires of picking up after people, and just huffs and puffs a lot . . . it is a historical cemetery, mainly because the Dowdy children are buried there -- http://aboutbillythekid.forumotion.net/t50-the-dowdy-family-massacre historical marker -- http://www.co.kerr.tx.us/historical/pdf/Sunset%20Cemetery%20-%20marker%20fact%20sheet.pdf i don't know what its public/private status is however . . . other cemeteries, even family cemeteries, so designated around here have no problems with visitors . . . i have no problems going in there, perhaps because he's used to seeing me there, i don't know . . . i do know he likes turtles so if you can engage him have at it i'll see if i can get some answers, but in general i'd venture to say you can try, and if he gets huffy, then move along . . . otherwise, you can also bird at the reseach center, but it's only open on weekdays on a work schedule, and you MUST check in at the office -- do not just go in and drive or walk around . . . tony gallucci ingram/kerrville/hunt, texas hurricanetg@xxxxxxxxxxx http://tonygallucci.dAportfolio.com Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner