[texbirds] Re: Sunset Cemetery
- From: Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Joseph Kennedy <josephkennedy36@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:20:22 -0500
access to...One now has to go thru a cattle guard then about 3/4 mile down
a private road to get to it...There is now a heavy locked gate with no
trespassing signs of huge proportions on it. The cemetery has a couple of
very historic Texas legends planted in ti (a Burleson and Doc. Bryson) but
danged if I know how one could access it now...B
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Joseph Kennedy <josephkennedy36@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> It is designated by the state as a birding site as state law says it can be
> a birding site. Any cemetary whether public or privated is open to all
> including those wishing to have a picnic on the day of the dead.
> Or inspect historic gravestones. It can be wrong to make rubbings if you
> transfer ink to the headstone but non-marking methods can be done anywhere
> at anytime.
>
> I am not sure what the county means by "private cemetary" as it does not
> agree with Texas law. Almost every cemetary in the state and country is
> private and owned by church associations, masonic groups, for profit groups
> etc. They are all privately owned; public cemetaries are normally
> charitable or municipal cemetaries and are also really private as they are
> owned by the city etc.
>
> The only truly private cemetaries would those where a rancher's family is
> buried back in the oak grove. Even in that case any family member etc must
> have perpetual access after the ranch is sold or even subdivided. There is
> much trouble involved if anyone wants to move the bones at a later date.
>
> This has been a problem in many parts of the country and has always been
> resolved in favor of the public. The people claiming privacy usually have
> other bones to pick including a california gentleman who was illegally
> trapping endanged species of lizards that sat on the gravestones. Visitors
> who came to see the lizards would be of great risk to the cemetary guardian
> who was arrested.
>
> Perhaps a copy of the texas statute could be explained by the commissioner
> if he actually read it and had the papers from the cemetary that stated why
> that cemetary was exempt from the law.
>
> The problem is identical with public access to texas beaches which have
> guaranteed access but beachfront owners not wanting anyone on "their"
> private beach.
>
> Access must be given and it is no ones business what a person does on the
> cemetary grounds or beach as long as the activity is not illegal.
>
> there is a whole series of posting here with nasty people claiming public
> roads cannot be birded, you cannot stop and look at my field, the public
> does not have access to a wildlife area, etc. Where the deputy is a cousin
> on the complainant or the complainant waves a gun, there may be some right
> of possession but only that which grows out of the barrel of the gun. You
> can go up the local food chain but make sure that your insurance, car
> inspection sticker etc are current and no lights are burned out.
>
> But practically you have to be willing to put up with some annoyance to
> push the issue. As an old cemetary walker for birds or history, I never
> really had a problem if I was polite and courteous. And you make friends
> and find really good places. Long ago I was given access to a marvelous old
> native pecan grove and did some study at the library and found the Moses
> Austin may have helped plant the original trees or their ancestors. Had a
> great picnic there with the owners family when I gave him copies of the
> papers and then saw the old cemetary that no one else knew existed.
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:48 PM, melissa isom <isommelissa@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all;
> > I had gotten the name and number of the president of the Sunset Cemetery
> > from the county commissioner. I gave him a call and asked about what
> > had been going on concerning the birders. He said that it is a private
> > cemetery and that he had no idea how or why it was designated by
> > the Texas Parks and Wildlife as a birding site. He said that they do
> > not want the public in there birding because people were parking on
> > the grave sites and they are also concerned about liability. They had
> > recently found underground hornets nest. He suggested that birders
> > go in the fish hatchery (next door) if they want to bird.
> > Don't kill the messenger. I have enjoyed birding at the cemetery many
> > times.
> > Melissa Isom
> > Ingram, Texas
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