My goodness! What a strong reaction I received privately. Fortunately, most were quite positive. But there are certainly some hateful folks on this listserv. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Jim Sinclair <jim.sinclair@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > I am not speaking for Mark (I have never even met him), and I have no back > channel information regarding this particular issue of the Elegant Tern > location. > > I fail to understand why some people seem to think that another birder has > an obligation to publicly reveal the location of any particular sighting. > > There are a number of reasons why a location would not be revealed, and > there is no obligation to even give a reason. The following list is by no > means complete, but may help some folks better understand. > > The location is on private property, and the owner does not wish to have > the location revealed, even if the bird can be seen from publicly > accessible areas. The owner may wish to not be bombarded with phone calls > and emails wanting to know if the bird is still there. > > The location is on public property, but in a vulnerable area where too > much 'traffic' would probably drive it away. This is a biggie. There are > numerous stories about how too much pressure on a localized area has driven > the target bird away. > > Photographers, in particular, are often the biggest offenders in this > category. Although most photographers are courteous, there are a few that > simply MUST get a totally unobscured view from a close enough distance to > photograph the lice on the bill - even when it means cutting away newly > planted vegetation at Paradise Pond (crossing behind the yellow tape to do > so), or running in front of everyone else to photograph the Purple > Sandpiper, chasing it away, to never be seen again. > > I would also offer that it pay to be friendly and courteous with > everyone. I have been privileged on occasion to be invited to come observe > a bird on private property when that sighting was not otherwise reported > until well after the fact. And I am not typically a rarity chaser. > > Conversely, through the years I have had the pleasure of guiding several > hard core listers to pursue their particular target species, either for > lifers or big year efforts. All but one of those experiences were quite > positive and enjoyable. > > Bottom line: The discourteous actions of a very few do, indeed, influence > whether sighting locations are reported. > > -- > Jim Sinclair (TX-ESA) > TOS Life Member > Kingsville, TX > > "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of > thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein > -- Jim Sinclair (TX-ESA) TOS Life Member Kingsville, TX "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner