[texbirds] Re: Black-throated Gray Warbler
- From: Heidi Trudell <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Clay Taylor <Clay.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:37:56 -0500
All, I simply wish that notable sightings would be just that - notable
sightings. Every time I see playback mentioned, I just cringe. The
vast majority of folks reading Texbirds, I trust, are sane and ethical
birders who would not abuse playback, but less is more; we lead by
example and new birders who may not understand the context might just
fall back on the technology crutch of i-gadgetry that is so
ubiquitous.
Brush, I'd probably benefit greatly from spending time in the field
with you. But I would also wager that you didn't hone your skills with
an ipod in hand.... better to learn from the birds or the masters than
the apps.
-h
Heidi Trudell
Marathon, TX
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Clay Taylor
<Clay.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> All -
>
> Actually, the way it is written, it looks like the initial Screech owl
> calling ("casual") might have been whistled, but the subsequent iPod playback
> was after the initial sighting. In any case, I am not going to condemn
> either action. Sorry, Heidi.
>
> I fall squarely in the camp maintaining that any controversy about audio
> playback away from the immediate active nesting areas is much ado about
> nothing. Near an active nest - yeah, stifle the recordings, pisshing,
> squeaks, etc. As Brush was speculating about the Crow People taking cues
> from humans, I do feel that getting parent birds too upset in the vicinity of
> the nest is a call to lunch for smart predators.
>
> However, I have heard anecdotally that playback of territorial songs, alarm
> notes, etc., in post-breeding or wintering populations might actually
> strengthen group cooperation and vigilance. I will leave that to a
> post-grad student to prove or disprove, but an instance with using recordings
> to attract an obviously non-resident warbler is not an issue to me. If
> there emerges some hard science that proves otherwise, I will modify my
> behavior accordingly.
>
> Clay Taylor
> Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX
> Clay.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 7:06 PM, "Brush Freeman" <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Sorry Heidi, I stand corrected....I do see he was using an Ipod
>> later... I read the first part...But it does not matter except where
>> use of such things are prohibited...If anyone is strongly opposed to
>> the use of such accessories, they would likely quickly get quite upset
>> on an outing with me. Tho I usually whistle :-)
>>
>> Brush
>> **********************************************************************
>> Brush Freeman
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>> Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>> **
>>> Dear Heidi: He said he was imitating a Screech Owl, I did not read
>>> anything about playbacks he is also a biologist that probably is very
>>> aware of any remote, very remote, repercussions at this time of year
>>> to anything perhaps except breeding White-wings...IE post breeding
>>> exercise on a private land.which turned out to produce a darn good
>>> bird with minimal effort that area. Kind of a bummer you called him
>>> out in public, but know you and a few other folks have strong feelings
>>> about this. Like you say tho, I don't want to kick a hornet's
>>> either...Just feel that there needs to be a devil's advocate here :-)
>>>
>>> Brush Freeman
>>> Utley
>>>
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> Brush Freeman
>>> 503-551-5150 Cell
>>> http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/
>>> Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Heidi Trudell <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Apologies for repeatedly kicking a hornet's nest, but must playback be
>>>> used so casually?
>>>>
>>>> -h
>>>>
>>>> Heidi Trudell
>>>> Marathon, TX
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Barbour, Philip - NRCS, Fort Worth,
>>>> TX <Philip.Barbour@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Saturday, 24 August, 2013, 0330 pm: I watched a female Black-throated
>>>>> Gray Warbler foraging in Ashe juniper trees in NW Austin.
>>>>> I got very good, close looks of this somewhat rare (for Central Texas)
>>>>> western warbler. I was in a friend's (Paula Shaw) backyard casually
>>>>> imitating
>>>>> an Eastern Screech Owl when this bird flew in. As this was a lifer for
>>>>> me, I asked Paula to bring a book so I could check what
>>>>> I recognized as a warbler unknown to me. We played call notes from her
>>>>> iPad and the bird came back in and gave both of us definitive
>>>>> looks at an unexpected migrant.
>>>>> This was on private land in a gated community (Golf Vista Drive, River
>>>>> Place Blvd, near the Overlook). Coordinates are 14R 0609886, 3360485 at
>>>>> 267m (~801 ft).
>>>>> Philip
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