[texbirds] Re: Black-throated Gray Warbler
- From: Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Jim Hailey <irasciblej@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:25:22 -0500
Me too even tho danger iS my business. B
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2013, at 2:41 PM, "Jim Hailey" <irasciblej@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I best just stay out of this discussion!
>
> Jim Hailey
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Heidi Trudell
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:38 PM
> To: Clay Taylor
> Cc: brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx; texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [texbirds] Re: Black-throated Gray Warbler
>
> All, I simply wish that notable sightings would be just that - notable
> sightings. Every time I see playback mentioned, I just cringe. The vast
> majority of folks reading Texbirds, I trust, are sane and ethical birders
> who would not abuse playback, but less is more; we lead by example and new
> birders who may not understand the context might just fall back on the
> technology crutch of i-gadgetry that is so ubiquitous.
>
> Brush, I'd probably benefit greatly from spending time in the field with
> you. But I would also wager that you didn't hone your skills with an ipod in
> hand.... better to learn from the birds or the masters than the apps.
>
> -h
>
> Heidi Trudell
> Marathon, TX
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Clay Taylor <Clay.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> All -
>>
>> Actually, the way it is written, it looks like the initial Screech owl
> calling ("casual") might have been whistled, but the subsequent iPod
> playback was after the initial sighting. In any case, I am not going to
> condemn either action. Sorry, Heidi.
>>
>> I fall squarely in the camp maintaining that any controversy about audio
> playback away from the immediate active nesting areas is much ado about
> nothing. Near an active nest - yeah, stifle the recordings, pisshing,
> squeaks, etc. As Brush was speculating about the Crow People taking cues
> from humans, I do feel that getting parent birds too upset in the vicinity
> of the nest is a call to lunch for smart predators.
>>
>> However, I have heard anecdotally that playback of territorial songs,
> alarm notes, etc., in post-breeding or wintering populations might actually
> strengthen group cooperation and vigilance. I will leave that to a
> post-grad student to prove or disprove, but an instance with using
> recordings to attract an obviously non-resident warbler is not an issue to
> me. If there emerges some hard science that proves otherwise, I will
> modify my behavior accordingly.
>>
>> Clay Taylor
>> Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX
>> Clay.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 7:06 PM, "Brush Freeman" <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Heidi, I stand corrected....I do see he was using an Ipod
>>> later... I read the first part...But it does not matter except where
>>> use of such things are prohibited...If anyone is strongly opposed to
>>> the use of such accessories, they would likely quickly get quite
>>> upset on an outing with me. Tho I usually whistle :-)
>>>
>>> Brush
>>> *********************************************************************
>>> *
>>> Brush Freeman
>>> 503-551-5150 Cell
>>> http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/
>>> Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>>> **
>>>> Dear Heidi: He said he was imitating a Screech Owl, I did not read
>>>> anything about playbacks he is also a biologist that probably is
>>>> very aware of any remote, very remote, repercussions at this time of
>>>> year to anything perhaps except breeding White-wings...IE post
>>>> breeding exercise on a private land.which turned out to produce a
>>>> darn good bird with minimal effort that area. Kind of a bummer you
>>>> called him out in public, but know you and a few other folks have
>>>> strong feelings about this. Like you say tho, I don't want to kick
>>>> a hornet's either...Just feel that there needs to be a devil's
>>>> advocate here :-)
>>>>
>>>> Brush Freeman
>>>> Utley
>>>>
>>>> ********************************************************************
>>>> **
>>>> Brush Freeman
>>>> 503-551-5150 Cell
>>>> http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/
>>>> Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Heidi Trudell
> <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Apologies for repeatedly kicking a hornet's nest, but must playback
>>>>> be used so casually?
>>>>>
>>>>> -h
>>>>>
>>>>> Heidi Trudell
>>>>> Marathon, TX
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Barbour, Philip - NRCS, Fort
>>>>> Worth, TX <Philip.Barbour@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Saturday, 24 August, 2013, 0330 pm: I watched a female Black-throated
> Gray Warbler foraging in Ashe juniper trees in NW Austin.
>>>>>> I got very good, close looks of this somewhat rare (for Central
>>>>>> Texas) western warbler. I was in a friend's (Paula Shaw) backyard
>>>>>> casually imitating an Eastern Screech Owl when this bird flew in.
>>>>>> As this was a lifer for me, I asked Paula to bring a book so I could
> check what I recognized as a warbler unknown to me. We played call notes
> from her iPad and the bird came back in and gave both of us definitive looks
> at an unexpected migrant.
>>>>>> This was on private land in a gated community (Golf Vista Drive, River
> Place Blvd, near the Overlook). Coordinates are 14R 0609886, 3360485 at
> 267m (~801 ft).
>>>>>> Philip
>>>>>> Philip J. Barbour, Ph.D.,Certified Wildlife Biologist (r)|Central
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>>>>>> IL, IN, MI USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service|Central
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