[TechAssist] Re: Update#2! RCA 61" hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans "kick" once, otherwise dead]

  • From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:35:53 -0700 (PDT)

Al, I'm old and slow both.
But, I'm sure he means Never Was Available.
Walter
--- al m <ampm@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm slow ?????
> Al Marquardt
> ampm@xxxxxxx
> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
> 206 W Main
> Girardville Pa. 17935
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerome Silverman"
> <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:37 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Update#2! RCA 61" hdtv
> P61310, DTV307GA, fans
> "kick" once, otherwise dead]
> 
> 
> > NWA is really a better way to put it.
> > Jerry Silverman
> > Greentron Inc
> > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
> > 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
> > greentron@xxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 9:40 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Update#2! RCA 61"
> hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans
> > "kick" once, otherwise dead]
> >
> >
> > > HA!! I have a HD65W20 2yrs old and the DM1
> power module is NLA.
> > > Al Marquardt
> > > ampm@xxxxxxx
> > > Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
> > > 206 W Main
> > > Girardville Pa. 17935
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 11:50 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Update#2! RCA 61"
> hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans
> > > "kick" once, otherwise dead]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the feedback, always appreciated
> from this forum.
> > > > , but what the h*ll with "NLA" on a yoke in
> a  three thousand dollar
> > > > unit 36 months out of the plant? Customer
> hasn't had it 36 months!
> Geez,
> > > > this is the TOP end  of RCA,s CRT  based
> HDTV. What the heck does RCA
> > > > think? I got a email confirmation on my web
> order and although it
> showed
> > > > one in stock, now says zero stokk, one
> "BO".
> > > > I dunno. This govt is ALLOWING these thugs
> to get away with this. All
> > > > nice and legal.
> > > > Venting...
> > > > Phil Bader
> > > >
> > > > Wayne Vanaman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The "square tape" is the SVM coil. 240796.
>  I have moved many of
> these
> > > coils
> > > > >from tube to tube.  Just examine carefully
> its position on the neck.
> > > > >
> > > > >RCA tech assist once told me, on a
> warranty job, to cut and splice
> the
> > > yoke
> > > > >wires instead of changing all three yokes.
> > > > >
> > > > >Wayne Vanaman
> > > > >Omega Electronics
> > > > >6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > > > >Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
> > > > >
> > > > >Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > > > >
> > > > >850-456-5995 voice
> > > > >850-458-6369 fax
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >From: "Phil Bader"
> <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:41 AM
> > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Update#2! RCA 61"
> hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans
> > > "kick"
> > > > >once, otherwise dead]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>An ongoing saga...
> > > > >>The unit did power on with the blue CRT
> ioslated from the set.
> > > > >>Customer approved the estimate., I
> ordered the parts. INstalled the
> > CRT.
> > > > >>Upon removing the blue yoke, I saw the
> insides were cut to ribbons
> by
> > > > >>the broken glass of the  neck.Funny this
> still allowed the set to
> > power
> > > > >>on with this yoke plugged in, but maybe
> it was damaged  "open"
> instead
> > > > >>of shorted. Anyway, the yoke is a 
> 248399, Tritronics shows it NLA
> (a
> > > > >>three year old 61in. HDTV), but another
> distrib. showed one left.
> > > > >>Supposedly it comes as three yokes
> attached together. (daisey
> > chained).
> > > > >>I assume I may be able to buy the three
> and install the one,as the
> > other
> > > > >>two tubes operate OK.
> > > > >>Also, there is an interesting clear
> square tape with a copper coil
> > > > >>printrd in it that must be peeled off the
> old CRT neck and placed on
> > the
> > > > >>new, and a wire soldered to it.
> > > > >> What a pia.
> > > > >>Ordered the yoke on line this morning.
> Any input appreciated.
> > > > >>Phil Bader
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Phil Bader wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>After removing anode from bad blue CRT
> and unplugging CRT neck
> board,
> > > > >>>the set powered up with a good picture
> except of course no blue.
> > > > >>>Verified no other damage.
> > > > >>>I  am still thinking the CRT neck board
> on the bad tube may have
> > taken
> > > > >>>damage, but not many parts on that assy,
> and seems easy enough to
> fix
> > > if
> > > > >>>needed.
> > > > >>>Awaiting customer's return call.
> > > > >>>My fix will be a blue CRT assembly
> (comes without yoke), the two
> > diodes
> > > > >>>and two 4700mfd caps said to be a
> problem on the DMA power supply
> > > board,
> > > > >>>as recommended in thread below.
> > > > >>>(plus the convergence-from-hell,
> probably)
> > > > >>>Will advise.
> > > > >>>Phil Bader
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>tvservice wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>You can do just what you said
> > > > >>>>look for coolant leak at broken tube
> > > > >>>>possible cause of break
> > > > >>>>Robert
> > > > >>>>tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >>>>H & H Electronics Inc
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >>>>From: "Phil Bader"
> <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:44 AM
> > > > >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] update. RCA 61"
> hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans
> > > "kick"
> > > > >>>>once, otherwise dead]
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>-------- Original Message --------
> > > > >>>>>Subject: RCA 61" hdtv P61310,
> DTV307GA, fans "kick" once,
> otherwise
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >dead
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:06:13 -0400
> > > > >>>>>From: Phil Bader
> <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>I checked the DMA Power supply board
> and the two 4700mfd caps
> .Caps
> > > > >>>>>tested OK. I noticed as I powered it
> on, looking inside in the
> > back,
> > > as
> > > > >>>>>it would do the cycling, I saw an arc
> from up under the CRT area
> > each
> > > > >>>>>cycle.
> > > > >>>>>opened the front panel where I could
> see the bottoms of the CRT
> > necks
> > > > >>>>>and CRT boards.
> > > > >>>>>The CRT on my right had the neck
> hanging!
> > > > >>>>>I can see a black arc line around it
> at the bell where it appears
> > to
> > > > >>>>>have arced until it burnt through the
> glass neck!. CRT is toast.
> > > Don't
> > > > >>>>>know what else.
> > > > >>>>>Question:
> > > > >>>>>Can I isolate this bad blue CRT by
> unplugging it's anode from the
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >block,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>and unplug the CRT board, so I can
> power the set and see if the
> > other
> > > > >>>>>two CRTs are OK, and I have HV,etc?
> What's the safest way?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Will keep posted.
> > > > >>>>>PS: another tech  advised on the DMA
> power supply (upright one
> > above
> > > > >>>>>sweep) to just change caps
> C14113,C14115 (use# 250729), and
> diodes
> > > > >>>>>CR19710 and 13 with #234048. High
> failure rates, tho not my
> problem
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >here.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>Phil Bader
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Philip Bader
> > > > >>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> > > > >>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl.
> 33880
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Phil Bader wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>A newer chassis.
> > > > >>>>>>RCA  61 inch  HDTV. model P61310,
> chassis DTV307GA.
> > > > >>>>>>No picture, no sound.
> > > > >>>>>>I notice there is an "access card" in
> a slot in the rear, I
> assume
> > a
> > > > >>>>>>built in satelite tuner assy.
> > > > >>>>>>Customer is an office equipement
> tech, and says it has two 24
> volt
> > > > >>>>>>fans that seem to "kick" once, but do
> not start up. The set is
> > > > >>>>>>otherwise dead.
> > > > >>>>>>When I plugged in the cord, I heard
> the "chirp" of what I assume
> > is
> > > > >>>>>>the power supply.
> > > > >>>>>>Pushed power button: Green light
> comes on and stays green
> > > constantly.
> > > > >>>>>>No other response, other than a
> strange sound coming from the
> > lower
> > > > >>>>>>right side of the set (facing the
> set's screen), best described
> as
> > a
> > > > >>>>>>half-second "Gurgle" recurring
> steadily every one second.
> > > > >>>>>>Could use ANYTHING on this: pdf's,
> bullitens, histories, common
> > > > >>>>>>hi-failures, anything!
> > > > >>>>>>Thanks,
> > > > >>>>>>Phil Bader.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>-- 
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Philip Bader
> > > > >>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> > > > >>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl.
> 33880
> > > > >>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
> > > > >>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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