Many CTC169's are still out there. They better... or they would have a Class Action. I think..one of the problems these days, Electronics are so damn cheap, no one bothers to kick up a stink any more. Chinese are depending on this to make the profit. Make sure it lasts for the 90 days, then they on their own...hehe.;-) -Ed- Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Update#2! RCA 61" hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans "kick" once, otherwise dead] > Yea and to think, they still carry parts for the ol' 169's > Jeff > -- > Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair > 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 > 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 11:50 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Update#2! RCA 61" hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans "kick" once, otherwise dead] > > > Thanks for the feedback, always appreciated from this forum. > , but what the h*ll with "NLA" on a yoke in a three thousand dollar > unit 36 months out of the plant? Customer hasn't had it 36 months! Geez, > this is the TOP end of RCA,s CRT based HDTV. What the heck does RCA > think? I got a email confirmation on my web order and although it showed > one in stock, now says zero stokk, one "BO". > I dunno. This govt is ALLOWING these thugs to get away with this. All > nice and legal. > Venting... > Phil Bader > > Wayne Vanaman wrote: > > >The "square tape" is the SVM coil. 240796. I have moved many of these coils > >from tube to tube. Just examine carefully its position on the neck. > > > >RCA tech assist once told me, on a warranty job, to cut and splice the yoke > >wires instead of changing all three yokes. > > > >Wayne Vanaman > >Omega Electronics > >6904 W Fairfield Dr > >Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > > >Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > > >850-456-5995 voice > >850-458-6369 fax > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:41 AM > >Subject: [TechAssist] Update#2! RCA 61" hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans "kick" > >once, otherwise dead] > > > > > > > > > >>An ongoing saga... > >>The unit did power on with the blue CRT ioslated from the set. > >>Customer approved the estimate., I ordered the parts. INstalled the CRT. > >>Upon removing the blue yoke, I saw the insides were cut to ribbons by > >>the broken glass of the neck.Funny this still allowed the set to power > >>on with this yoke plugged in, but maybe it was damaged "open" instead > >>of shorted. Anyway, the yoke is a 248399, Tritronics shows it NLA (a > >>three year old 61in. HDTV), but another distrib. showed one left. > >>Supposedly it comes as three yokes attached together. (daisey chained). > >>I assume I may be able to buy the three and install the one,as the other > >>two tubes operate OK. > >>Also, there is an interesting clear square tape with a copper coil > >>printrd in it that must be peeled off the old CRT neck and placed on the > >>new, and a wire soldered to it. > >> What a pia. > >>Ordered the yoke on line this morning. Any input appreciated. > >>Phil Bader > >> > >>Phil Bader wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>After removing anode from bad blue CRT and unplugging CRT neck board, > >>>the set powered up with a good picture except of course no blue. > >>>Verified no other damage. > >>>I am still thinking the CRT neck board on the bad tube may have taken > >>>damage, but not many parts on that assy, and seems easy enough to fix if > >>>needed. > >>>Awaiting customer's return call. > >>>My fix will be a blue CRT assembly (comes without yoke), the two diodes > >>>and two 4700mfd caps said to be a problem on the DMA power supply board, > >>>as recommended in thread below. > >>>(plus the convergence-from-hell, probably) > >>>Will advise. > >>>Phil Bader > >>> > >>>tvservice wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>You can do just what you said > >>>>look for coolant leak at broken tube > >>>>possible cause of break > >>>>Robert > >>>>tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>H & H Electronics Inc > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:44 AM > >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] update. RCA 61" hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans "kick" > >>>>once, otherwise dead] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>-------- Original Message -------- > >>>>>Subject: RCA 61" hdtv P61310, DTV307GA, fans "kick" once, otherwise > >>>>> > >>>>> > >dead > > > > > >>>>>Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:06:13 -0400 > >>>>>From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>> > >>>>>I checked the DMA Power supply board and the two 4700mfd caps .Caps > >>>>>tested OK. I noticed as I powered it on, looking inside in the back, as > >>>>>it would do the cycling, I saw an arc from up under the CRT area each > >>>>>cycle. > >>>>>opened the front panel where I could see the bottoms of the CRT necks > >>>>>and CRT boards. > >>>>>The CRT on my right had the neck hanging! > >>>>>I can see a black arc line around it at the bell where it appears to > >>>>>have arced until it burnt through the glass neck!. CRT is toast. Don't > >>>>>know what else. > >>>>>Question: > >>>>>Can I isolate this bad blue CRT by unplugging it's anode from the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >block, > > > > > >>>>>and unplug the CRT board, so I can power the set and see if the other > >>>>>two CRTs are OK, and I have HV,etc? What's the safest way? > >>>>> > >>>>>Will keep posted. > >>>>>PS: another tech advised on the DMA power supply (upright one above > >>>>>sweep) to just change caps C14113,C14115 (use# 250729), and diodes > >>>>>CR19710 and 13 with #234048. High failure rates, tho not my problem > >>>>> > >>>>> > >here. > > > > > >>>>>Phil Bader > >>>>> > >>>>>Philip Bader > >>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > >>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Phil Bader wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>A newer chassis. > >>>>>>RCA 61 inch HDTV. model P61310, chassis DTV307GA. > >>>>>>No picture, no sound. > >>>>>>I notice there is an "access card" in a slot in the rear, I assume a > >>>>>>built in satelite tuner assy. > >>>>>>Customer is an office equipement tech, and says it has two 24 volt > >>>>>>fans that seem to "kick" once, but do not start up. The set is > >>>>>>otherwise dead. > >>>>>>When I plugged in the cord, I heard the "chirp" of what I assume is > >>>>>>the power supply. > >>>>>>Pushed power button: Green light comes on and stays green constantly. > >>>>>>No other response, other than a strange sound coming from the lower > >>>>>>right side of the set (facing the set's screen), best described as a > >>>>>>half-second "Gurgle" recurring steadily every one second. > >>>>>>Could use ANYTHING on this: pdf's, bullitens, histories, common > >>>>>>hi-failures, anything! > >>>>>>Thanks, > >>>>>>Phil Bader. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>> > >>>>>Philip Bader > >>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > >>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 > >>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821 > >>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > >>>> > >>>> > >- > > > > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>--- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Lost Password: > >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >>>>>Email Archives: > >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>> > >>> > >--- > > > > > >>>>Lost Password: > >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >>>>Email Archives: > >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >> > >>Philip Bader > >>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > >>3420 Recker Hwy. 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