[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.

  • From: greentron@xxxxxxx
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:31:50 +0000

I dont think there is anything left BUT small independent servicers! The big 
guys, not supported by some other big guy, like Sears, and having captive 
customers, have pretty much all gone belly up. Just as you cant squeeze blood 
out of a stone, you cant squeeze enough money out of repairing consumer 
electronics to support an organization. I am not aware of ANY big service 
organizations being a member of Nesda. With a total less than a thousand 
members, it would be like the tail trying to wag the dog.
J Silverman


> That's why I said Nesda?
> I shouldn't knock them...but I don't think they have the Small Independent
> Servicer on their mind. I don't belong..so I will keep my mouth (keyboard)
> shut.
> 
> -Ed-
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:02 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
> GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> 
> 
> > NESDA look into something? ??????
> > NESDA is more "over the hill" than you are! LOL
> >
> > Jim McVey
> > McVey Alltronix
> > 327 Broadway
> > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > ph: 845 561 8383
> > fx: 845 561 9017
> > Consumer electronics &
> > computer service.
> > Factory authorized for
> > over twenty brands.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
> > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> >
> >
> > > Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, lots of new products
> > > are exchange only, no parts available, no service manuals available and
> > > once the product is out of warranty the price to exchange it is more
> > > than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws against some of
> > > this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too far over
> > > the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some organization like NESDA
> > > should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone know?
> > >
> >
> ****************************************************************************
> > ***************************************
> > > Since 1972
> > > Jim Myers
> > > Telrad Electronics
> > > Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > >
> > >
> > > Ed Gaidies wrote:
> > > > Whole new Rip-Off.
> > > >
> > > > -Ed-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > Ontario-Canada
> > > >
> > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
> > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be more when they wanted
> > > >>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret code" to unlock
> the
> > > >>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't tell you over the
> > > >>phone, by email, or snail-mail)
> > > >>
> > > >>Doug Keller
> > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > >>101 Freeland Ave.
> > > >>Terra Alta, WV
> > > >>USA        26764
> > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Jim Myers wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure from the customer.
> > > >>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone to fix it for a
> cool
> > > >>>$1000.00.
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >>**************************************************************************
> > *
> > > >
> > > > ****************************************
> > > >
> > > >>>Since 1972
> > > >>>Jim Myers
> > > >>>Telrad Electronics
> > > >>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Jim Myers wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. There is no pullup
> > > >>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. I'll try Zenith
> > next
> > > >>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >>>*************************************************************************
> > *
> > > >
> > > > *****************************************
> > > >
> > > >>>>Since 1972
> > > >>>>Jim Myers
> > > >>>>Telrad Electronics
> > > >>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the sensor output
> lead?
> > > >>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or maybe 3) volts with
> the
> > > >>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
> > > >>>>>J Silverman
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just three tenths of a
> > > >>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from the remote. I
> > traced
> > > >>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface mount square
> > > >>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is 6413079F18 and it is on
> > the
> > > >>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a flat panel monitor
> > > >>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the ic or the board?
> > > >>>>>>Thanks,
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >>>>>***********************************************************************
> > *
> > > >
> > > > ********
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>***********************************
> > > >>>>>>Since 1972
> > > >>>>>>Jim Myers
> > > >>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> > > >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Hello Jim,
> > > >>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would rule out the
> > > >>>>>>>receiver. But it
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Thanx,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Scott Beebe
> > > >>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
> > > >>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
> > > >>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
> > > >>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
> > > >>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
> > > >>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
> > > >>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on the inside that
> says
> > > >>>>>>>it is a
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a worker at the office
> > > >>>>>>>caused a
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the buttons on the front,
> > now
> > > >>>>>>>it has
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all the time with the
> > > >>>>>>>cursor bar
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the remote no longer works.
> > > >>>>>>>The wire
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector has three tenths
> of
> > a
> > > >>>>>>>volt and
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote is activated. The
> > end
> > > >>>>>>>wire on
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds like the micro or
> the
> > > >
> > > > IR
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has service manual or
> > > >>>>>>>information on
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>>>Jim>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > >
> >
> >>>>>***********************************************************************
> > *
> > > >
> > > > ********
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>***********************************
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Jim>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > >
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