[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.

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  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:37:53 -0400

Try typing ;-( in Word, should come up as a tear-eyed frown..
The ;-( indicates a pouting face..


Jeff Dougherty
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A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough 
people to make it worth the
effort.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Kevin" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:40 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma 
GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a
hot secretary.


Hi Kevin,

I too have seen Hitachis go many years without much trouble.
I do like having newer sets, just because the picture tubes
are in better shape (better grayscale, etc.).

I haven't noticed the ;-) that much. What most people seem
to use is :). Try typing that onto a Word page, and you will
see it turn into a happy face! If you type (c) it will turn
into a copyright symbol (same with (t) and (r) ).

;-) does nothing in Word

But I don't know why they expect it to happen in Outlook
Express (or the program I'm using).


-- 
Best regards,

 Bil Green
 PC 1000
 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
 760-924-1000                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx

Wednesday, April 14, 2004, 9:48:49 PM, you wrote:

K> He used to own a TV sales/service shop and knows the quality of Hitachi
K> sets.  He made the decision himself.

K> I honestly believe that a 10-15 year set (once repaired) will outlast
K> many of even the brand new good brands.  For example I repaired a 20
K> year old Zenith 5 years ago for a customer and he just phoned me 4
K> months ago for another repair.  It does not have the best picture, but
K> the customer wanted it fixed.  Lately I have seen 5 year old JVC/Sears
K> sets with bonded bad yokes that were thrown away because the cost of a
K> new tube was worth more than a new set.

K> I currently own 6 TV's.  The newest one is a 1995 JVC, a 1992 Panasonic
K> GAOO, 2-1990 Mitsubishi's, a 1987 20" Hitachi, and a 1984 Hitachi.  The
K> 1984 Hitachi is a model CT2000, and has not broken down once in 20 years
K> and the picture looks as good as it did when it was new.  I trust the 20
K> year Hitachi more than I do the 9 year old JVC.  I am rambling on here,
K> but a 10 year old set is not old to me.  Caps and solder can be repaired
K> but a bad picture tube cannot be repaired.

K> I am now thinking of upgrading to get HDTV.  I am seriously thinking
K> about buying a projector to get as big a picture as possible.  I will
K> still keep my other sets because HDTV only broadcasts are a long ways
K> off.  But I want the BIG PICTURE.

K> By the way, where can you get a high quality 35" TV for $600 Canadian?
K> The price for a 35" Sony or Panasonic is closer to $1500 I thought.  I
K> am curious, what does ;-) mean?  I have seen many posts with that
K> ending.  Thank you.

K> Kevin Wilks
K> Kevin's TV & Video Repair
K> Penticton BC Canada
K> kevintv@xxxxxxx


K> -----Original Message-----
K> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
K> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tel-Tek
K> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 7:23 PM
K> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
K> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
K> GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.

K> Kevin;
K> $600 will get you a brand new 35"set.
K> Hopefully with a 1 year Warranty. Does he not get Future Shop Flyers?
K> Also...your a Technician...what does "Only 10 Years Old"mean to you?
K> Caps....Bad solder (Hitachi)...not a god decision to make for a
K> "Friend".;-)

K> -Ed-
K> Tel-Tek Electronics
K> Ontario-Canada
K> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx

K> ----- Original Message ----- 
K> From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
K> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
K> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:38 PM
K> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
K> GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.


>> A friend of mine has a 35" Hitachi that needs a new tube.  I phoned my
>> rebuilder and he was able to order a brand new original Hitachi tube
K> for
>> $595 Canadian.  My friend can do it himself, so for him it was worth
K> it.
>> He likes the set and it is only 10 years old.  By the way, the tube
K> was
>> 70% below Hitachi's list price.  Someone else's loss is another one's
>> gain.
>>
>> Kevin Wilks
>> Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>> Penticton BC Canada
>> kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tel-Tek
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:29 PM
>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
>> GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>>
>> They do...Jeff.
>> But a dying breed. The last CRT rebuilder we have (Hi-Vac) is barely
>> holding
>> on.
>> Even Monitor and R/P are on the way out.
>> Just talked to Roy last week, at Hi-Vac...Direct View are a thing of
K> the
>> past. And pricing of new TV's do not make it economical to change
K> CRT's
>> anymore.
>>
>> -Ed-
>> Tel-Tek Electronics
>> Ontario-Canada
>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Shoreline Electronics" <jstielau@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:17 PM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
>> GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>>
>>
>> > This why I tell all my customers who mention " I want a Plasma set!
>> > ".......no you don't!  You'll be sorry in the end.
>> >
>> > CRT based sets rule!
>> >
>> > ==========================
>> > Jeff Stielau
>> > Shoreline Electronics Repair
>> > 344 East Main Street
>> > Clinton,CT 06413
>> > 860-399-1861
>> > 860-664-3535 (fax)
>> > jstielau@xxxxxxxx
>> > ========================
>> > "If you push something hard enough it will fall over."
>> > Fudd's First Law of Opposition - Sir Sidney Fudd
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM
>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
>> > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>> >
>> >
>> > > Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, lots of new
>> products
>> > > are exchange only, no parts available, no service manuals
K> available
>> and
>> > > once the product is out of warranty the price to exchange it is
K> more
>> > > than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws against some
K> of
>> > > this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too far
>> over
>> > > the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some organization like NESDA
>> > > should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone know?
>> > >
>> >
>>
K> ************************************************************************
>> ****
>> > ***************************************
>> > > Since 1972
>> > > Jim Myers
>> > > Telrad Electronics
>> > > Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ed Gaidies wrote:
>> > > > Whole new Rip-Off.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Ed-
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
>> > > > Ontario-Canada
>> > > >
>> > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
>> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
>> Plasma
>> > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be more when they
>> wanted
>> > > >>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret code" to
>> unlock
>> the
>> > > >>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't tell you over
>> the
>> > > >>phone, by email, or snail-mail)
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Doug Keller
>> > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics
>> > > >>101 Freeland Ave.
>> > > >>Terra Alta, WV
>> > > >>USA        26764
>> > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org
>> > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>> > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Jim Myers wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure from the
>> customer.
>> > > >>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone to fix it for
K> a
>> cool
>> > > >>>$1000.00.
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>>**********************************************************************
>> ****
>> > *
>> > > >
>> > > > ****************************************
>> > > >
>> > > >>>Since 1972
>> > > >>>Jim Myers
>> > > >>>Telrad Electronics
>> > > >>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>Jim Myers wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. There is no
>> pullup
>> > > >>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. I'll try
>> Zenith
>> > next
>> > > >>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>>>*********************************************************************
>> ****
>> > *
>> > > >
>> > > > *****************************************
>> > > >
>> > > >>>>Since 1972
>> > > >>>>Jim Myers
>> > > >>>>Telrad Electronics
>> > > >>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the sensor
K> output
>> lead?
>> > > >>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or maybe 3) volts
>> with
>> the
>> > > >>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
>> > > >>>>>J Silverman
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just three
K> tenths
>> of a
>> > > >>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from the remote.
K> I
>> > traced
>> > > >>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface mount square
>> > > >>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is 6413079F18 and it
K> is
>> on
>> > the
>> > > >>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a flat panel
>> monitor
>> > > >>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the ic or the
>> board?
>> > > >>>>>>Thanks,
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>>>>>*******************************************************************
>> ****
>> > *
>> > > >
>> > > > ********
>> > > >
>> > > >>>>>>***********************************
>> > > >>>>>>Since 1972
>> > > >>>>>>Jim Myers
>> > > >>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>> > > >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Hello Jim,
>> > > >>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would rule out the
>> > > >>>>>>>receiver. But it
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Thanx,
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Scott Beebe
>> > > >>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
>> > > >>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
>> > > >>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
>> > > >>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
>> > > >>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
>> > > >>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
>> > > >>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on the inside
>> that
>> says
>> > > >>>>>>>it is a
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a worker at the
>> office
>> > > >>>>>>>caused a
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the buttons on the
>> front,
>> > now
>> > > >>>>>>>it has
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all the time with
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>cursor bar
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the remote no longer
>> works.
>> > > >>>>>>>The wire
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector has three
>> tenths
>> of
>> > a
>> > > >>>>>>>volt and
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote is
K> activated.
>> The
>> > end
>> > > >>>>>>>wire on
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds like the
K> micro
>> or
>> the
>> > > >
>> > > > IR
>> > > >
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has service manual
K> or
>> > > >>>>>>>information on
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>>>>>*******************************************************************
>> ****
>> > *
>> > > >
>> > > > ********
>> > > >
>> > > >>>>>>***********************************
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>Jim>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > >
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