[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.

  • From: "Shoreline Electronics" <jstielau@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:17:19 -0400

This why I tell all my customers who mention " I want a Plasma set!
".......no you don't!  You'll be sorry in the end.

CRT based sets rule!

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Jeff Stielau
Shoreline Electronics Repair
344 East Main Street
Clinton,CT 06413
860-399-1861
860-664-3535 (fax)
jstielau@xxxxxxxx
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"If you push something hard enough it will fall over."
Fudd's First Law of Opposition - Sir Sidney Fudd


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.


> Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, lots of new products
> are exchange only, no parts available, no service manuals available and
> once the product is out of warranty the price to exchange it is more
> than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws against some of
> this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too far over
> the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some organization like NESDA
> should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone know?
>
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> Since 1972
> Jim Myers
> Telrad Electronics
> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>
>
> Ed Gaidies wrote:
> > Whole new Rip-Off.
> >
> > -Ed-
> >
> >
> >
> > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > Ontario-Canada
> >
> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
> > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be more when they wanted
> >>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret code" to unlock the
> >>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't tell you over the
> >>phone, by email, or snail-mail)
> >>
> >>Doug Keller
> >>Wis-Kel Electronics
> >>101 Freeland Ave.
> >>Terra Alta, WV
> >>USA        26764
> >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>http://www.tech-assist.org
> >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jim Myers wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure from the customer.
> >>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone to fix it for a cool
> >>>$1000.00.
> >>
>
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> > ****************************************
> >
> >>>Since 1972
> >>>Jim Myers
> >>>Telrad Electronics
> >>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Jim Myers wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. There is no pullup
> >>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. I'll try Zenith
next
> >>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
> >>
>
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> > *****************************************
> >
> >>>>Since 1972
> >>>>Jim Myers
> >>>>Telrad Electronics
> >>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the sensor output lead?
> >>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or maybe 3) volts with the
> >>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
> >>>>>J Silverman
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just three tenths of a
> >>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from the remote. I
traced
> >>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface mount square
> >>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is 6413079F18 and it is on
the
> >>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a flat panel monitor
> >>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the ic or the board?
> >>>>>>Thanks,
> >>
>
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> > ********
> >
> >>>>>>***********************************
> >>>>>>Since 1972
> >>>>>>Jim Myers
> >>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hello Jim,
> >>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would rule out the
> >>>>>>>receiver. But it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanx,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Scott Beebe
> >>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
> >>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
> >>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
> >>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
> >>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
> >>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
> >>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on the inside that says
> >>>>>>>it is a
> >>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a worker at the office
> >>>>>>>caused a
> >>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the buttons on the front,
now
> >>>>>>>it has
> >>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all the time with the
> >>>>>>>cursor bar
> >>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the remote no longer works.
> >>>>>>>The wire
> >>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector has three tenths of
a
> >>>>>>>volt and
> >>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote is activated. The
end
> >>>>>>>wire on
> >>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds like the micro or the
> >
> > IR
> >
> >>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has service manual or
> >>>>>>>information on
> >>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
> >>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>Jim>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
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> >>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
> >>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
> >>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
> >>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
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