[TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
- From: Doug Keller <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:54:25 -0500
They'll defeat us using our own greed against us. When commies are
finally making all of the US military equipment, all they have to do is
make faulty shit for a year, shut the exports down, and then waltz in
and take over the US. All with minimal, if any, losses.
Doug Keller
Wis-Kel Electronics
101 Freeland Ave.
Terra Alta, WV
USA 26764
dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.tech-assist.org
"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
walter wood wrote:
>Besides, neither of these companies are American
>owned.
>This is between the Chinese and the French.
>What we need to do is NOT buy the products.
>We also need high import tariffs, like the other
>countries have on our products.
>But this will not happen.
>people will still flock to wally-world and buy
>cheap junk.
>You know, the repair people are the only real
>losers in this, and with less than 9,000 of us
>left, who cares.
>But it's scarey when I think about parts for our
>fighter planes etc. coming from abroad.
>We're in one hell of a shape.
>Walter
>--- Keith Trumbla <keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>>Just one problem ED, Thomson wasn't forced to
>>sell out. The Chinese were
>>given an opportunity that they jumped on. The
>>Asians haven't stole anything
>>that we haven't first given up. Thomson decided
>>to give up those 1200 jobs,
>>they are the ones that didn't give a crap about
>>those families. I agree with
>>you on all of your other points, but most of us
>>also want those $9.00
>>Wal-mart shirts made in Bangladesh as opposed to
>>US made product at double
>>the price. If no body bought it, the product AND
>>it's MANUFACTURER would not
>>exist.
>>Keith Trumbla
>>BEM Electronics Inc.
>>Suite 212-530 Century St.
>>WPG. MB. R3H 0Y4 Canada
>>Ph.204.775.2875 Fax.204.774.9192
>>www.bemelectronics.com
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics"
>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:25 AM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thomson in US eliminated 1200 jobs, which went
>>>
>>>
>>to China. That's 1200
>>
>>
>>>people, and families which quite likely will go
>>>
>>>
>>unto some form of
>>
>>
>>>Government assistance. I don't think that there
>>>
>>>
>>is any way of turning
>>
>>
>>>this around. Unless some branch of government
>>>
>>>
>>gets involved. May have to
>>
>>
>>>sidestep some patent right, open a few large
>>>
>>>
>>factories to manufacture
>>
>>
>>>this stuff, pay the workers a "reasonable"
>>>
>>>
>>wage, keep the unions out.
>>
>>
>>>Market the product for Homeland consumption.
>>>
>>>
>>Give a proper Warranty,
>>
>>
>>>have spare parts available. Sell at slightly
>>>
>>>
>>more than cost of
>>
>>
>>>production. This gives jobs to those that want
>>>
>>>
>>them, and stimulates the
>>
>>
>>>economy. Maybe use the billions we spend
>>>
>>>
>>overseas, helping countries,
>>
>>
>>>that really don't want our help, and revitalize
>>>
>>>
>>our own interests for a
>>
>>
>>>change.
>>>I realize this sounds over simplistic. But I
>>>
>>>
>>would rather own
>>
>>
>>>one "good" VCR, and pay $300 for it, then have
>>>
>>>
>>3 Orion's at $69 in my
>>
>>
>>>Wall Unit, so I have 2 backups.
>>>Think of the joy of picking up the phone,
>>>
>>>
>>calling the Parts
>>
>>
>>>Department, or Service Department, and some one
>>>
>>>
>>saying, How ya all doing
>>
>>
>>>this morning"..that in itself would be worth
>>>
>>>
>>the extra money.
>>
>>
>>>-Ed-
>>>
>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>
>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>
>>>
>>Behalf Of Doug Keller
>>
>>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:00 AM
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>
>>>Or they will just absorb and take us over the
>>>
>>>
>>way they have our
>>
>>
>>>manufacturing.
>>>
>>>Doug Keller
>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>USA 26764
>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>>won't live long enough to make them all
>>>
>>>
>>yourself"
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I can't understand why someone, wiser then us
>>>>
>>>>
>>guys, can not see the
>>
>>
>>>>shifting trend of All electronics being
>>>>
>>>>
>>manufactured by the Asians. I
>>
>>
>>>>wonder how much of our defense equipment,
>>>>
>>>>
>>including missile tracking,
>>
>>
>>>>satellite technology, CRT and LCD displays in
>>>>
>>>>
>>our tanks and fighting
>>
>>
>>>>vehicles, Night Vision technology, etc,
>>>>
>>>>
>>depends on parts from China,
>>
>>
>>>>Korea and other Asian countries. How will we
>>>>
>>>>
>>get news updates from CNN,
>>
>>
>>>>if we can't get parts for our
>>>>
>>>>
>>NEC's...Goldstars...Sanyo's...Daewoos...Orions...and
>>now RCA and GE
>>
>>
>>>>TV's. How much of our Electrical grid depends
>>>>
>>>>
>>on monitoring systems
>>
>>
>>>made
>>>
>>>
>>>>in China and the likes. If we continue to
>>>>
>>>>
>>depend on technology from
>>
>>
>>>>outside North America, we better not "pixx"
>>>>
>>>>
>>these countries off. Or we
>>
>>
>>>>will find many things on Backorder in the
>>>>
>>>>
>>future.
>>
>>
>>>>-Ed-
>>>>
>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>
>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>
>>>>
>>Behalf Of walter wood
>>
>>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:49 AM
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>
>>>>Seems to me that Goldstar was the CRT supplier
>>>>
>>>>
>>when
>>
>>
>>>>Zenith was having such a bad time of it with
>>>>
>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>"soft short" taking out all the main boards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>>the sets being "Not worth fixing".
>>>>That was pretty much all the '90's.
>>>>I never could figure out why Zenith didn't
>>>>
>>>>
>>find
>>
>>
>>>>another CRT supplier.
>>>>I guess that was a way to tear zenith down so
>>>>Goldstar could buy them.
>>>>Walter
>>>>--- Tel-Tek Electronics <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>When they became LG Electronics.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>Behalf Of Kevin
>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 PM
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>
>>>>>When did Korea (Goldstar) take over control
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>>>Zenith?
>>>>>
>>>>>Kevin Wilks
>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:10 PM
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually rca and ge tvs as we knew them have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>not
>>
>>
>>>>>existed since about
>>>>>1989,
>>>>>the story goes like this, ge bought rca,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>which
>>
>>
>>>>>owned nbc, banquet foods,
>>>>>burlington mills, hertz rent a car,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>hazeltine
>>
>>
>>>>>research, sarnoff labs,
>>>>>and
>>>>>randomhouse publishing, and last but not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>least
>>
>>
>>>>>their consumer
>>>>>electronics
>>>>>company, this was at the time the largest non
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>oil
>>
>>
>>>>>buyout ever,ge started
>>>>>selling what it did not want(everything
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>except
>>
>>
>>>>>nbc), and then made an
>>>>>offer
>>>>>to thomson of france, to swap their combined
>>>>>consumer electronics
>>>>>company
>>>>>for thomson's medical equipment division,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>seems
>>
>>
>>>>>as though ge really
>>>>>started
>>>>>thomson, then the french nationalized it, now
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>it
>>
>>
>>>>>appears that the french
>>>>>have decided to take advantage of the "so
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>called
>>
>>
>>>>>global economy" and buy
>>>>>into the chinese producers so they can sell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>fine
>>
>>
>>>>>products along with
>>>>>funai
>>>>>and apex etc, pretty sad
>>>>>
>>>>>charles betzler
>>>>>Best Electronics
>>>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:36 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's all over now,....but the cryin !
>>>>>>We can't get by without RCA/GE sets,...and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>we
>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>don't want China to be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>involved to anymore degree then they
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>allready
>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>are in our Industry.
>>>>>When
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Korea took over control of Zenith by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Goldstar,...that's when Zenith
>>>>>went
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the dogs,...and now we will see that happen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>with RCA (Radio
>>>>>Corporation of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>America),..what a laugh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics I've
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>heard it said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>93 North Main
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>"that
>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>a fool never learns"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 It kinda
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>reminds
>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>me of me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:17 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But the Chinese have control, and it is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>expected
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>that they will have full ownership in 6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>months
>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>so.
>>>>>>>One of Thomson's tech support guys told me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>that he
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>was going to work at Home Depot, and is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>expecting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>everyone to be laid off in that department.
>>>>>>>He said that people were dissappearing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>around
>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>every day.
>>>>>>>Oh well, rca couldn't get much worse than
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>ATC311.
>>>>>>>Walter
>>>>>>>--- "Phillip R. Hull"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>><phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Its 2/3 s Owned by a Co. in China. That
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>what was said at a RCA meeting
>>>>>>>>a couple of weeks ago.
>>>>>>>>Phillip R Hull STET
>>>>>>>>phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>FAX 517--569-3075
>>>>>>>>Professional Technicians only
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics"
>>>>>>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Some conglomerate from France...me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>thinks.
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>On
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Keith Trumbla
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:52 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Who owns Thomson now ?
>>>>>>>>>Keith Trumbla
>>>>>>>>>BEM Electronics Inc.
>>>>>>>>>Suite 212-530 Century St.
>>>>>>>>>WPG. MB. R3H 0Y4 Canada
>>>>>>>>>Ph.204.775.2875 Fax.204.774.9192
>>>>>>>>>www.bemelectronics.com
>>>>>>>>>
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