Ed for president!!!!!!!!!! (or governor of California) Doug Keller Wis-Kel Electronics 101 Freeland Ave. Terra Alta, WV USA 26764 dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.tech-assist.org "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself" Tel-Tek Electronics wrote: >Thomson in US eliminated 1200 jobs, which went to China. That's 1200 >people, and families which quite likely will go unto some form of >Government assistance. I don't think that there is any way of turning >this around. Unless some branch of government gets involved. May have to >sidestep some patent right, open a few large factories to manufacture >this stuff, pay the workers a "reasonable" wage, keep the unions out. >Market the product for Homeland consumption. Give a proper Warranty, >have spare parts available. Sell at slightly more than cost of >production. This gives jobs to those that want them, and stimulates the >economy. Maybe use the billions we spend overseas, helping countries, >that really don't want our help, and revitalize our own interests for a >change. > I realize this sounds over simplistic. But I would rather own >one "good" VCR, and pay $300 for it, then have 3 Orion's at $69 in my >Wall Unit, so I have 2 backups. > Think of the joy of picking up the phone, calling the Parts >Department, or Service Department, and some one saying, How ya all doing >this morning"..that in itself would be worth the extra money. > >-Ed- > >Ed Gaidies >Tel-Tek Electronics >Ontario-Canada > >teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >-----Original Message----- >From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Keller >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:00 AM >To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > >Or they will just absorb and take us over the way they have our >manufacturing. > >Doug Keller >Wis-Kel Electronics >101 Freeland Ave. >Terra Alta, WV >USA 26764 >dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >http://www.tech-assist.org >"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you >won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > >Tel-Tek Electronics wrote: > > > >>I can't understand why someone, wiser then us guys, can not see the >>shifting trend of All electronics being manufactured by the Asians. I >>wonder how much of our defense equipment, including missile tracking, >>satellite technology, CRT and LCD displays in our tanks and fighting >>vehicles, Night Vision technology, etc, depends on parts from China, >>Korea and other Asian countries. How will we get news updates from CNN, >>if we can't get parts for our >>NEC's...Goldstars...Sanyo's...Daewoos...Orions...and now RCA and GE >>TV's. How much of our Electrical grid depends on monitoring systems >> >> >made > > >>in China and the likes. If we continue to depend on technology from >>outside North America, we better not "pixx" these countries off. Or we >>will find many things on Backorder in the future. >> >>-Ed- >> >>Ed Gaidies >>Tel-Tek Electronics >>Ontario-Canada >> >>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of walter wood >>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:49 AM >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >> >>Seems to me that Goldstar was the CRT supplier when >>Zenith was having such a bad time of it with the >>"soft short" taking out all the main boards, and >>the sets being "Not worth fixing". >>That was pretty much all the '90's. >>I never could figure out why Zenith didn't find >>another CRT supplier. >>I guess that was a way to tear zenith down so >>Goldstar could buy them. >>Walter >>--- Tel-Tek Electronics <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>When they became LG Electronics. >>> >>>-Ed- >>> >>>Ed Gaidies >>>Tel-Tek Electronics >>>Ontario-Canada >>> >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>Behalf Of Kevin >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 PM >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>> >>>When did Korea (Goldstar) take over control of >>>Zenith? >>> >>>Kevin Wilks >>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair >>>Penticton BC Canada >>>kevintv@xxxxxxx >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>Behalf Of >>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:10 PM >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>> >>>Actually rca and ge tvs as we knew them have not >>>existed since about >>>1989, >>>the story goes like this, ge bought rca, which >>>owned nbc, banquet foods, >>>burlington mills, hertz rent a car, hazeltine >>>research, sarnoff labs, >>>and >>>randomhouse publishing, and last but not least >>>their consumer >>>electronics >>>company, this was at the time the largest non oil >>>buyout ever,ge started >>>selling what it did not want(everything except >>>nbc), and then made an >>>offer >>>to thomson of france, to swap their combined >>>consumer electronics >>>company >>>for thomson's medical equipment division, seems >>>as though ge really >>>started >>>thomson, then the french nationalized it, now it >>>appears that the french >>>have decided to take advantage of the "so called >>>global economy" and buy >>>into the chinese producers so they can sell fine >>>products along with >>>funai >>>and apex etc, pretty sad >>> >>>charles betzler >>>Best Electronics >>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:36 PM >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>It's all over now,....but the cryin ! >>>>We can't get by without RCA/GE sets,...and we >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>don't want China to be >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>involved to anymore degree then they allready >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>are in our Industry. >>>When >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Korea took over control of Zenith by >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Goldstar,...that's when Zenith >>>went >>>to >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>the dogs,...and now we will see that happen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>with RCA (Radio >>>Corporation of >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>America),..what a laugh. >>>> >>>>LLW >>>> >>>>LeRoy Westlund >>>>Westlund TV & Electronics I've >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>heard it said: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>93 North Main "that >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>a fool never learns" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 It kinda reminds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>me of me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:17 PM >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>But the Chinese have control, and it is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>expected >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>that they will have full ownership in 6 months >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>or >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>so. >>>>>One of Thomson's tech support guys told me >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>that he >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>was going to work at Home Depot, and is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>expecting >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>everyone to be laid off in that department. >>>>>He said that people were dissappearing around >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>there >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>every day. >>>>>Oh well, rca couldn't get much worse than the >>>>>ATC311. >>>>>Walter >>>>>--- "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Its 2/3 s Owned by a Co. in China. That >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>is >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>what was said at a RCA meeting >>>>>>a couple of weeks ago. >>>>>>Phillip R Hull STET >>>>>>phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>FAX 517--569-3075 >>>>>>Professional Technicians only >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" >>>>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:05 PM >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Some conglomerate from France...me thinks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Ed- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ed Gaidies >>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics >>>>>>>Ontario-Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>On >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>Behalf Of Keith Trumbla >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:52 PM >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Thomson TEC >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Who owns Thomson now ? >>>>>>>Keith Trumbla >>>>>>>BEM Electronics Inc. >>>>>>>Suite 212-530 Century St. >>>>>>>WPG. 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