Subject changed to Bickering Technicians. 'Nuff Said? ******************************** Since 1972 * Jim Myers * Telrad Electronics * Fort Wayne Indiana * ******************************** peggs wrote: > " I can get a 2nd repair about 9 - 12 months later," > ........this is what I'm trying to avoid,as a service to the customer. > > We are talking about a $1 part,not a Battery. > Plus,the OEM diodes fail quite often.............it's up to you. > I,as was mentioned before,tell the customers about the PS Primary > Capacitors,even the HV Block if the > OEM is still in there. > > Peggs > > At 05:43 PM 4/6/05, Damon wrote: > >>Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? - Peggs >> >>Because by measuring the actual voltage on the diode, I can get a 2nd repair >>about 9 - 12 months later, out of warranty. Orrrrrr I can replace it now and >>avoid that callback......just depends on the actual voltage I see on my >>meter.....if it's 13 Volts or higher I don't touch it. >> >>You know, that's like taking your car in for a radiator repair and the guy >>there throws in a battery because he knows it's going to fail.....and >>charges you for it..... >> >>Damon Brunger >>Telrad Electronics >>Fort Wayne IN >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:45 AM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: >>intermittent rca >> >> >> >>>It's a $1 part. >>>It fails frequently. >>>Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? >>> >>>Peggs >>> >>>At 06:02 AM 4/6/05, J. Knoll wrote: >>> >>>>I was doing that but after a few returns a month later after the original >>>>repair I started replacing that diode automatically to avoid wasting time >>>>with returns. I hate the 169 and the less time on the bench with one the >>>>better. >>>>Jay-Jays tv >>>>On Apr 6, 2005 8:36 AM, Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Actually I monitor CR4118's voltage to determine whether it needs >> >>replaced >> >>>>>or not. >>>>>14 volts -OK >>>>> >>>>>12 Volts - Replace >>>>> >>>>>10 Volts - Bad >>>>> >>>>>and there's a big wide replace area with skinny -OK / Bad sections if >> >>you >> >>>>>want to make a meter out of it....;-) >>>>> >>>>>Yes replacing CR4118 will cover a multitude of problems/intermittants. >>>>> >>>>>Damon Brunger >>>>>Telrad Electronics >>>>>Fort Wayne IN >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:58 PM >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: >>>>>intermittent rca >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Please put Make, Model (or Chassis), and Problem in subject line. >> >>Then >> >>>>>email >>>>> >>>>>>can be filed Automatically, Thanks. CR4118 should go without saying. >> >>Of >> >>>>>>course it will fix intermittent operation. That is the first part we >>>>> >>>>>change >>>>> >>>>>>on all CTC169's regardless of customers problem. I would think all >> >>shops >> >>>>>>would change this on all CTC169 repairs, we do, don't we? >>>>>> >>>>>>Perry Bower >>>>>>Electric Medic >>>>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her" >>>>>>http://www.electricmedic.com >>>>>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C >>>>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907 >>>>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) >>>>>>Phone: 706-863-3474 >>>>>>Fax: 706-863-2316 >>>>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary McCartney >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:48 AM >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: intermittant rca >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Don't know if this will cure it but it has been recommended by many >>>>>>techs to replace CR4118 (RCA # 164590 or FR302 generic)in every >> >>CTC169 >> >>>>>>that comes into the shop, whether it appears to be OK or not. This >> >>diode >> >>>>>>causes a lot of strange symptoms. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Gary McCartney >>>>>> >>>>>>McCartney Electronics >>>>>>Guelph Ontario Canada >>>>>>Est. 1984 >>>>>>email: gary (at) number63.ca >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>GRAYSTV@xxxxxxx wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>we have a 35 " rca ctc169BG5 that shuts down very intermitantly. >> >>like >> >>>>>>once >>>>>> >>>>>>>a day. I measured the b+ after it shutdown and it did not waver. >> >>when >> >>>>>it >>>>> >>>>>>>tried to turn on.otherwise i can't get a test. i have replaced >>>>>>>c4102,c4108,c4104,c612,cr4401,c4406,cr4402, c4403, and c4404. does >>>>> >>>>>anyone >>>>> >>>>>>have any advice?? >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>GraysTV/Glenn Gray >>>>>>>Berlin Ht's.OH 44814 >>>>>>>Phone (419) 588-2325 >>>>>>>graystv@xxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>>>>--- >>>>>> >>>>>>>This Email List is Public. 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