[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]Bickering Technicians

  • From: Jim Myers <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:17:25 -0500

Subject changed to Bickering Technicians.
'Nuff Said?


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Since 1972                     *
Jim Myers                      *
Telrad Electronics             *
Fort Wayne Indiana             *
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peggs wrote:
> " I can get a 2nd repair about 9 - 12 months later,"
> ........this is what I'm trying to avoid,as a service to the customer.
> 
> We are talking about a $1 part,not a Battery.
> Plus,the OEM diodes fail quite often.............it's up to you.
> I,as was mentioned before,tell the customers about the PS Primary 
> Capacitors,even the HV Block if the
> OEM is still in there.
> 
> Peggs
> 
> At 05:43 PM 4/6/05, Damon wrote:
> 
>>Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? - Peggs
>>
>>Because by measuring the actual voltage on the diode, I can get a 2nd repair
>>about 9 - 12 months later, out of warranty. Orrrrrr I can replace it now and
>>avoid that callback......just depends on the actual voltage I see on my
>>meter.....if it's 13 Volts or higher I don't touch it.
>>
>>You know, that's like taking your car in for a radiator repair and the guy
>>there throws in a battery because he knows it's going to fail.....and
>>charges you for it.....
>>
>>Damon Brunger
>>Telrad Electronics
>>Fort Wayne IN
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:45 AM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
>>intermittent rca
>>
>>
>>
>>>It's a $1 part.
>>>It fails frequently.
>>>Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ???
>>>
>>>Peggs
>>>
>>>At 06:02 AM 4/6/05, J. Knoll wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was doing that but after a few returns a month later after the original
>>>>repair I started replacing that diode automatically to avoid wasting time
>>>>with returns. I hate the 169 and the less time on the bench with one the
>>>>better.
>>>>Jay-Jays tv
>>>>On Apr 6, 2005 8:36 AM, Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Actually I monitor CR4118's voltage to determine whether it needs
>>
>>replaced
>>
>>>>>or not.
>>>>>14 volts -OK
>>>>>
>>>>>12 Volts - Replace
>>>>>
>>>>>10 Volts - Bad
>>>>>
>>>>>and there's a big wide replace area with skinny -OK / Bad sections if
>>
>>you
>>
>>>>>want to make a meter out of it....;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes replacing CR4118 will cover a multitude of problems/intermittants.
>>>>>
>>>>>Damon Brunger
>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>Fort Wayne IN
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:58 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
>>>>>intermittent rca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Please put Make, Model (or Chassis), and Problem in subject line.
>>
>>Then
>>
>>>>>email
>>>>>
>>>>>>can be filed Automatically, Thanks. CR4118 should go without saying.
>>
>>Of
>>
>>>>>>course it will fix intermittent operation. That is the first part we
>>>>>
>>>>>change
>>>>>
>>>>>>on all CTC169's regardless of customers problem. I would think all
>>
>>shops
>>
>>>>>>would change this on all CTC169 repairs, we do, don't we?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perry Bower
>>>>>>Electric Medic
>>>>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>>>>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>>>>>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
>>>>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>>>>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
>>>>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
>>>>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
>>>>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary McCartney
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:48 AM
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: intermittant rca
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't know if this will cure it but it has been recommended by many
>>>>>>techs to replace CR4118 (RCA # 164590 or FR302 generic)in every
>>
>>CTC169
>>
>>>>>>that comes into the shop, whether it appears to be OK or not. This
>>
>>diode
>>
>>>>>>causes a lot of strange symptoms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gary McCartney
>>>>>>
>>>>>>McCartney Electronics
>>>>>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>>>>>Est. 1984
>>>>>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>GRAYSTV@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>we have a 35 " rca ctc169BG5 that shuts down very intermitantly.
>>
>>like
>>
>>>>>>once
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a day. I measured the b+ after it shutdown and it did not waver.
>>
>>when
>>
>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>tried to turn on.otherwise i can't get a test. i have replaced
>>>>>>>c4102,c4108,c4104,c612,cr4401,c4406,cr4402, c4403, and c4404. does
>>>>>
>>>>>anyone
>>>>>
>>>>>>have any advice??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>GraysTV/Glenn Gray
>>>>>>>Berlin Ht's.OH 44814
>>>>>>>Phone (419) 588-2325
>>>>>>>graystv@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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