Kevin, The relay is removed from this chassis and the same problem is occurring. The relay I removed is the thermistor relay. I've checked all the diodes and transistors in and around the relay as suggested by another member, I can't find anything obvious. This is a newer model TV with surface mount components everywhere, even the jungle, micro and tuner control IC's are surface mount. It's kind of hard to trace things on this chassis. What I need, and I know I've already asked, is a schematic on this chassis. I may have to dig deep and purchase one because I'm stumped. Thank-you, David Lessard. Alexandria Electronics 50 Harrison Street Alexandria, Ontario K0C-1A0 mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 5:09 PM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF - Followup I have tested relays when turned off to see if there is a short where there shouldn't be. When off of course the relay should be open on the switch side. Kevin Wilks Kevin's TV & Video Repair Penticton BC Canada kevintv@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob@Bobs tv Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:34 AM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF - Followup Dave, I would try removing the relay...Then your 100% sure its not that... I did the same thing with the Panasonic, testing relay transistor, pulse from micro...then I removed/replaced the relay and that took care of the problem...Panasonic was doing EXACT same thing as your Sanyo...{I thought it can't be relay as it clicks on/off} Bob, Bobs TV Worcester, ma woodman1@xxxxxxxx Main 508-853-1482 Fax 508-853-1480 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lessard" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF - Followup > Customer dropped off TV today. When plugged in HV fires up but with no > picture. Hit the ON button and there is a picture with sound, turn TV > off and audio goes off but picture remains. Checked the relay and its > not stuck. This TV has a surface mount micro on the foil side of the > PCB, what I need is information on the relay circuit from the micro to > the relay please. > > Thanks. > > David Lessard. > > Alexandria Electronics > 50 Harrison Street > Alexandria, Ontario > K0C-1A0 > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Webster TV > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:05 PM > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF > > David, > > It definitely can be the relay if your unit uses a relay in the power > circuit. Some sets only use the relay in the degaussing circuit. I've > run > into this numerous times on Quasar/Panasonics, you push power to shut > the > unit off and the on screen display and audio go off, but the picture > will > slightly dim down, but stay on. Replacing the relay solves the problem. > > Dan Webster > Webster's TV > Shullsburg, Wi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lessard" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 6:29 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF > > > > Furthermore one would think that if the relay was stuck that the TV > > would never turn off. I'll have to check this problem out first hand > > when I visit the customer this week. Thanks for the responses, it give > > me something to think about. > > > > David Lessard > > > > Alexandria Electronics > > 50 Harrison Street > > Alexandria, Ontario > > K0C-1A0 > > > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Intrepid Video > > Support > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 4:14 PM > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF > > > > I would not think it is the relay..if it was, the picture would not > come > > on. > > > > Jeff Dougherty > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > 263 S Front St > > Steelton PA 17113 > > fax...717-564-4952 > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Lessard" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:51 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF > > > > > > Bob, > > > > Was it a defective relay or the relay circuitry? > > > > Thanks for the information. > > > > David Lessard > > > > Alexandria Electronics > > 50 Harrison Street > > Alexandria, Ontario > > K0C-1A0 > > > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob@Bobs tv > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:35 PM > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF > > > > Dave, > > Just repaired a 27" Panasonic EXACT same problem, it was the > > power > > relay. > > Bob, > > > > Bobs TV Worcester, ma > > > > woodman1@xxxxxxxx > > > > Main 508-853-1482 > > Fax 508-853-1480 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Lessard" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 1:46 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Sanyo TV - DS27510 - Won't turn OFF > > > > > > > Customer called and explained the problem as not being able to turn > > off > > > this TV. When the on/off button is pressed the audio and picture > goes > > > off but then the picture returns without audio. If the on/off button > > is > > > pressed again the audio comes up. Weird, I would like to arm myself > > with > > > whatever details of this problem before visiting the customer. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > David Lessard > > > > > > Alexandria Electronics > > > 50 Harrison Street > > > Alexandria, Ontario > > > K0C-1A0 > > > > > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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