[TechAssist] Re: JVC AV56WP30 procedure to remove back panel?

  • From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:51:18 -0500

Yup, sounds like JVC alright.
They don't even have any appreciable assistance for their
ASC's either, so don't feel too slighted.

Replies from the FSR could take a month or more-if ever.
A total waste of time to deal with them.

Jim McVey
McVey Alltronix   
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Newburgh N.Y. 12550

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D Trippel wrote:

>Leonard Caillouet wrote:
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>>If you don't have any objection I'd like to post this on a few public
>>forums.  The attitude that this reflects toward consumers and independent
>>service technicians is a disgrace.  It is completely consistent with JVC and
>>its practices in the past.
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>>There is no ASC closer than 90 miles from here, yet JVC has repeatedly
>>refused to provide any technical assistance to independents trying to
>>service their customers here.  Not only have they refused help, but they
>>have said that we have no business trying to service the sets.  From my
>>earliest days of dealing with JVC with the first VCRs, their attitude and
>>practices have been nothing short of offensive, both from the perspective of
>>a dealer and a servicer.
>>
>>Leonard G. Caillouet
>>Electronics World
>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
>>Gainesville, FL 32606
>>352-332-5608
>>352-332-5668 FAX
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:34 PM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC AV56WP30 procedure to remove back panel?
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>>Greetings all:
>>
>>An exerpt from the manual of model AV56wp30:
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>>CAUTION AT DISASSEMBLY
>>Prior to disassembly, unplug the power code (sic) from the AC outlet
>>without fail. (Turn the power "off".)
>>
>>Short the SB connector (1) pin and (2) pin of the DIGITAL INPUT MODULE
>>(At the time of assembling)
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>>Before the rear panel is inserted into the cabinet, release the
>>short-circuit between the SB connector (1) pin and (2) pin of the
>>DITGITAL INPUT MODULE.
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>>After releasing the short-circuit between the SB connectors, do not turn
>>the power on until the rear panel is inserted into the cabinet.
>>
>>* Negligence in carrying out the above steps may cause the inactivation
>>of the TV
>>
>>End Quote.
>>
>>This same information is in other models manuals.
>>
>>They do have a bulletin dated Feb 2005 that states:
>>
>>Non-functional Digital Input
>>Solution:
>>1. Power off the unit
>>2. Disconnect the digital input if it is connected
>>3 Remove the rear cover
>>4 On the digital input module, using a shorting pin (PC type) or a
>>jumper, short Pin 1 and Pin 2 of the SB connector
>>5. Power on the unit
>>6. Unplug the unit and remove the shorting pin or the umper
>>7. Re-attatch the unit's rear cover
>>8. Power on the unit, and input the digital source
>>Note:  While servicing televisions and the PTVs, follow the safety
>>procedures listed in the service manual.
>>
>>My input:
>>This bulletin applies to this model set.
>>Notice the lack of comment regarding the back/etc.
>>Currious.
>>
>>
>>Wayne Vanaman
>>Omega Electronics
>>6904 W Fairfield Dr
>>Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
>>
>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>>
>>850-456-5995 voice
>>850-458-6369 fax
>>
>>
>>Leonard Caillouet wrote:
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>>>Has JVC published anything on this?  I'd love to post it all over the
>>>internet to let people know.  JVC has always been an arrogant and
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>>difficult
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>>>company to deal with in my experience, and people should know.
>>>
>>>Leonard G. Caillouet
>>>Electronics World
>>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
>>>Gainesville, FL 32606
>>>352-332-5608
>>>352-332-5668 FAX
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Jeff Farnsworth" <jlfonz@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:01 AM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC AV56WP30 procedure to remove back panel?
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>>>Supposedly it is to protect the content of hollywierds movies.  To prevent
>>>digital duplication.
>>>
>>>TV Doctor
>>>Avalon, Wi
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:36 AM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC AV56WP30 procedure to remove back panel?
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>>>>Why is the set designed like that?Do they have an explanation? I am
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>>>serious!
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>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 1:05 AM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC AV56WP30 procedure to remove back panel?
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>>>>>I think we all need to fully understand this. How do we disconnect the
>>>>>whole
>>>>>board before we take the back cover off? Is there a sensor sticking out
>>>>>the
>>>>>back of the set that you have to tape up. This is very confusing but
>>>>>something we need to explain in detail. How do we know if we have a
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>>>signal
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>>>>>problem with the DVI and what is the DVI before we take the back off.
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>>>All
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>>>>>of
>>>>>us are not familiar with JVC acronyms. I am more confused than before
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>>>now.
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>>>>>I
>>>>>know I would be afraid to take the back off of a new JVC ptv. Can we
>>>>>explain
>>>>>in detail how we take the back off of these sets without erasing the
>>>>>eprom.
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perry Bower
>>>>>Electric Medic
>>>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>>>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>>>>>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
>>>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>>>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
>>>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
>>>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
>>>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeff Farnsworth
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:07 AM
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC AV56WP30 procedure to remove back panel?
>>>>>
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>>>>>Unless you have a signal problem with the DVI--just disconnect the whole
>>>>>board.  I allways locate the sensor and cover it with black tape just in
>>>>>case I pull a dumb one and plug it in not thinking.  Just had one the
>>>>>other
>>>>>day that the sensor was located on the jack CBA on the side---cant miss
>>>>>it--look slike an IR sensor---kinda.  Gotta take off the plastic piece
>>>>>covering the jack cba to see it.  The first ones had a sensor in the
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>>>can.
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>>>>>The can has a hole in it.  I allways taped over those also.
>>>>>
>>>>>TV Doctor
>>>>>Avalon, Wi
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Larry E" <videotech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:57 AM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] JVC AV56WP30 procedure to remove back panel?
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>>>>>>Hi Guys, I`m going out on this AV56WP30 very shortly and I saw a tip
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>having to short out 2 pins on the "digital input module" before
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>>>removing
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>>>>>>cover of the set or it will erase the eprom? Can anyone elaborate on
>>>>>>this?
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>>>>>Do I
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>>>>>>leave pins 1 & 2 shorted to each other while working on the set (with
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>>>>>>plugged in?) I work on 2-3 JVC big screens a year so don`t have this
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>>>>>>procedure the tip is talking about, customers complaint sounds like bad
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>>>>>convergence
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>>>>>>IC`s. Any help appreciated, tia, Larry E
>>>>>>Larry Eastman
>>>>>>American TV & Electronics
>>>>>>Crystal River, Fl. 34428
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>I  tell every customer that asks me about buying a new  tv  , to not!!!  
>buy a  JVC for  this reason alone. I think they could have thought of 
>alot less destructive way to disable a tv. I run a small shop and I have 
>had this set come in. Unfortunately the customer, took the back off and 
>applied power to the set. In my area many customers seem to think they 
>can fix things themselves. Not too smart, And a lesson learned the hard 
>way for this customer.  Now I'm paranoid about every new set that comes 
>in, looking for the sticker that will warn me about the teck trap 
>inside. I just hope that the rest off the manufacturers don't adopt this 
>same type of device.  It's hard enough to make a buck in this business 
>as it is. Just my opinion.
>
>Don Trippel
>Don's Electronics
>Rosthern,Sask
>Canada
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