[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?

From: Jim Myers <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:20:21 -0500
But what is the point in having a wide screen to watch a 4X3 picture? My 
Hitachi is set to show everything in 16X9 and I like it that way, no 
black borders for me!


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Since 1972                     *
Jim Myers                      *
Telrad Electronics             *
Fort Wayne Indiana             *
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Phil Bader wrote:
> This is so true. When I got my first wide screen PTV a year ago the 
> stretch looked distracting.Too wide in normal station viewing on cable. 
> I didn't want the black borders...
> Now I don't notice it and seems normal.
> Phil
> 
> Philip Bader
> Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> Fax (863) 299-8821
> email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> J Silverman wrote:
> 
> 
>>Your brain has been conditioned to know what a tv picture looks like, so
>>anything else represented as a tv picture looks "unnatural".
>>Jerry Silverman
>>Greentron Inc
>>4 Newland Ave
>>Greenville SC 29609
>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:32 PM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>onestandard ?
>>
>>
>> 
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>>>A live HDTV signal looks incredible compared to NTSC.  Night and day
>>>difference.  The beauty of HDTV is you don't have to sit 30 feet away to
>>>hide all the faults (of cable on a large screen) so the picture looks
>>>"good".  You can basically sit as close as your eyes will allow.
>>>
>>>As others have stated the HDTV sets do not look very good with cable,
>>>but the same goes for a 32" TV compared to a 42" and bigger projection
>>>TV.  The 32" looks much better on cable.
>>>
>>>Kevin Wilks
>>>Kevin's TV Repair
>>>Penticton BC Canada
>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hugh @ Main TV
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:35 AM
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>onestandard ?
>>>
>>>Yes, HDTV is 10 times better than old NTSC.
>>>www.Longmontmaintv.com
>>>Main TV -  636 Main St.
>>>Longmont, Co. 80501
>>>Tel.303-776-6955 Fax 303-776-0792
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:01 AM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>onestandard
>>>?
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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>>>
>>>>Don't worry about it.
>>>>Can't kill all of us,...or the list wouldn't survive.
>>>>
>>>>I'm taking a poll.
>>>>Question being:
>>>>Do you think the new HDTV picture looks better, then the old NTSC
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>
>>>standard
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>broadcast ? and : Is it worth changing over ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So far it is 3 for the change over,...and 3 against.
>>>>Kinda surpirising to me,....I thought I was the only one,...so it made
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>
>>>me
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>"feel better".
>>>>;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>LLW
>>>>
>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:12 AM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>>>onestandard ?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>Boy, the moderators are gonna kill us for ratchet jawing  like this on
>>>>>their tech forum!;-)
>>>>>I've been the worster of all! (or is it worstest?)
>>>>>Phil
>>>>>
>>>>>Philip Bader
>>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
>>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think everyone has valid points.
>>>>>>I think things at the government level has gone arry (spelling). The
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>>>>govern=
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>>>>>>ment was set up to be "We the people".  What has gone wrong?  If the
>>>>>>         
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>>>>majori=
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>>>>>>ty of the people say they don't want to buy a new TV, they shouldn't
>>>>>>         
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>>>be
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>>>>for=
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>>>>>>ced by anyone, especially the government, to buy a new TV because of
>>>>>>         
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>>>>te=
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>>>>>>chnology.  I think new technology is great but you should have a
>>>>>>         
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>>>choice
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>>>>>>if
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>>>>>>you want to take advantage of it or just go along with what you like
>>>>>>         
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>>>or
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>>>>can=
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>>>>>>afford.  This should be a choice not a demand.  It should never be
>>>>>>turned
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>>>>=
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>>>>>>into a hardship.
>>>>>>Daryl
>>>>>>Daryl's TV
>>>>>>2402 Wyoming Ave.
>>>>>>El Paso, TX  79903
>>>>>>915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
>>>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
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>>>>standar=
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>>>>>>d ?
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:48:09 -0600
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>I disagree.
>>>>>>>I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
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>>>when
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
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>>>>bett=
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>>>>>>er
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>>>>>>>be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
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>>>country is
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>>>>=
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>too
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>>>>>>>weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
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>>>needs,
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
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>>>>accept
>>>>     
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>>>>>>>it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The
>>>>>>>           
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>>>dogs
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>>>>wi=
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>>>>>>ll
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>>>>>>>keep um movin.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>remember,..
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>haveone
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>standard?
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
>>>>>>>>signals.
>>>>>>>>Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>rest
>>>>>>>>of the time to use lower res and have something like an info,
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>weather
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>shopping channel.
>>>>>>>>Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
>>>>>>>>middleclass
>>>>>>>>doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>to
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>guys
>>>>>>>>are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
>>>>>>>>governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>boxes
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>then they better be free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Al G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
>>>>>>>>>640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>will
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>popular,others
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change.
>>>>>>>>>Phil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>>>have one standard?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well, the scan rates will not change.....but
>>>>>>>>>>You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals,
>>>>>>>>>>Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards
>>>>>>>>>>1080i,
>>>>>>>>>>ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P.
>>>>>>>>>>So no, you'll see 4 standards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Damon Brunger
>>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Al L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                 
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>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>standard?
>>>   
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>standard?
>>>   
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>system,and only
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>>>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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