[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?

  • From: daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:21:13 -0600

Perhaps it is the locale.
Last month I had a RCA 53" HD in for a HV splitter.  I figured it was a goo=
d time=20
to try some comparisons.  I also had a 35" Sony direct view in for repairs.=
  The=20
cable company here doesn't broadcast in HD.  We do have off air HD signals.=
  Since=20
the RCA had dual RF inputs, I tuned to the same station to have a good refe=
rence to judge by.  The cable signal showed a good picture (not perfect but=
 quite good).=20=20
I set the other antenna input to air and tuned the HD program in. All I had=
 to do=20
was switch antenna inputs for the comparison.  The HD picture was not any b=
etter.=20=20
In fact, it was worse. The sound was scratchy, the picture would occasional=
ly pixelate
and it would even go to a blue screen stating "weak signal".  The off air s=
tation is
in line of site that one could see the broadcasting tower.  The Sony blew t=
he HD set away.  It had a gorgeous knock out picture both on cable and air.=
  This signal comparison holds typical of all of the HD sets I have had in =
the shop.
Sorry... I'm not convinced that HD is better.  Ten times better?  No way!
Daryl
Daryl's TV
2402 Wyoming Ave.
El Paso, TX  79903
915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestan=
dard ?
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:53:12 -0700

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> Not stupid at all.  According to Star Choice (the other satellite
> provider here in Canada), an HDTV signal contains up to 9 times more
> information than the NTSC signal.  I am guessing that would be for
> 1080i.  Therefore 10 times better is not that much of a stretch.  HDTV
> also is in Dolby Digital 5.1 for superior sound (9 + 1 =3D 10 times
> better!)
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> Kevin Wilks
> Kevin's TV Repair
> Penticton BC Canada
> kevintv@xxxxxxx
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> 10 times better ?
> And I thought I made stupid statements.
> OK,...4-1/2 for to 3-1/2 against.
> ;-)
> LLW
> LeRoy Westlund
> Westlund TV & Electronics
> 97 North Main =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0=
 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 "
> I forgot,..to remember,..
> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 to forget "
> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugh @ Main TV <maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:34 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
> onestandard ?
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> Yes, HDTV is 10 times better than old NTSC. www.Longmontmaintv.com
> Main TV - 636 Main St.
> Longmont, Co. 80501
> Tel.303-776-6955 Fax 303-776-0792
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:01 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
> onestandard
> ?
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> Don't worry about it.
> Can't kill all of us,...or the list wouldn't survive.
> I'm taking a poll.
> Question being:
> Do you think the new HDTV picture looks better, then the old NTSC
> standard broadcast ? and : Is it worth changing over ?
> So far it is 3 for the change over,...and 3 against.
> Kinda surpirising to me,....I thought I was the only one,...so it made
> me
> "feel better".
> ;-)
> LLW
> LeRoy Westlund
> Westlund TV & Electronics
> 97 North Main =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0=
 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 "
> I forgot,..to remember,..
> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 to forget "
> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:12 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
> onestandard ?
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> Boy, the moderators are gonna kill us for ratchet jawing like this on
> their tech forum!;-)
> I've been the worster of all! (or is it worstest?) Phil
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> Philip Bader
> Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821
> email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote:
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> I think everyone has valid points.
> I think things at the government level has gone arry (spelling). The
> govern=3D3D ment was set up to be "We the people". What has gone wrong? If
> the majori=3D3D ty of the people say they don't want to buy a new TV, they
> shouldn't be for=3D3D ced by anyone, especially the government, to buy a
> new=3D
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> TV because of new te=3D3D chnology. I think new technology is great but
> you
> should have a choice if
> =3D3D
> you want to take advantage of it or just go along with what you like or
> can=3D3D afford. This should be a choice not a demand. It should never be
> turned
> =3D3D
> into a hardship.
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> Daryl
> Daryl's TV
> 2402 Wyoming Ave.
> El Paso, TX 79903
> 915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
> daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
> www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
> =3DA0standar=3D3D
> d ?
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:48:09 -0600
> =3D3D20
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> I disagree.
> I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
> when
> =3D3D
> the
> time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
> =3DA0bett=3D3D
> er
> be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this country is
>=20
> =3D3D
> too
> weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial needs,
> and
> obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
> accept it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The
> dogs wi=3D3D
> ll
> keep um movin.
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> LLW
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> LeRoy Westlund
> Westlund TV & Electronics
> 97 North Main =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0=
 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 "
> I forgot,..to remember,..
> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 to forget "
> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
> =3DA0haveone
> standard?
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> The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480 signals.
>=20
> Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the rest
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> of the time to use lower res and have something like an info, weather or
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> shopping channel.
> Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower middleclass
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> doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants to
> come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich guys
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> are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
> governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter boxes
> then they better be free.
> Al G
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> tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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> I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
> 640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some will
> favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be popular,others
> obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change. Phil
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
> have one standard?
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> Well, the scan rates will not change.....but You'll probably always see
> 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals, Although I suspect most, if not all
> TV stations will move towards 1080i,
> ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P. So no, you'll see 4
> standards.
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> Damon Brunger
> Telrad Electronics
> Al L wrote:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
> Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
> standard?
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
> Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard?
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> I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
> system,and only
> one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
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> Al Leatherman
> 224 RT. 46
> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> 973-361-5796
> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
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