[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?

From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:46:54 -0400
Yup!, HD does great IF you have a HD signal. However, some mfrs
do better than others with  the NTSC conversion algorithm.
Some HDTV's do look HORRIBLE when displaying NTSC.
I tell my customers to ask to see NTSC display before buying!

Jim McVey
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John Mielke wrote:

>No question about it, HDTV is a much better picture IF you have a HD signal.
>If you are receiving NTSC signal the picture is definitely worse but it will
>eventually be worth it.  The change will be good for our business with sets
>being more expensive.  People needing to change over from cable to antenna
>or to satellite will create many service opportunities.  What about people
>that need to keep a NTSC tv to still use their old VCR or camcorder?  This
>may create a demand for used tvs. We need to keep up with the latest
>technology as we always have.   John.
>John Mielke
>Main TV
>636 Main St
>Longmont, Co 80501
>303 776 6955
>303 776 0792 fax
>www.longmontmaintv.com
>maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:01 AM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard
>?
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>>Don't worry about it.
>>Can't kill all of us,...or the list wouldn't survive.
>>
>>I'm taking a poll.
>>Question being:
>>Do you think the new HDTV picture looks better, then the old NTSC standard
>>broadcast ? and : Is it worth changing over ?
>>
>>
>>So far it is 3 for the change over,...and 3 against.
>>Kinda surpirising to me,....I thought I was the only one,...so it made me
>>"feel better".
>>;-)
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>>LLW
>>
>>LeRoy Westlund
>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:12 AM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>>onestandard ?
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>>>Boy, the moderators are gonna kill us for ratchet jawing  like this on
>>>their tech forum!;-)
>>>I've been the worster of all! (or is it worstest?)
>>>Phil
>>>
>>>Philip Bader
>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote:
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>>>>I think everyone has valid points.
>>>>I think things at the government level has gone arry (spelling). The
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>>>>ment was set up to be "We the people".  What has gone wrong?  If the
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>>>>ty of the people say they don't want to buy a new TV, they shouldn't be
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>>>>ced by anyone, especially the government, to buy a new TV because of new
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>>>>chnology.  I think new technology is great but you should have a choice
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>>>>you want to take advantage of it or just go along with what you like or
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>>>>afford.  This should be a choice not a demand.  It should never be
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>>>>into a hardship.
>>>>Daryl
>>>>Daryl's TV
>>>>2402 Wyoming Ave.
>>>>El Paso, TX  79903
>>>>915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
>>>>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
>>>>www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
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>>standar=
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>>>>d ?
>>>>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:48:09 -0600
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>>>>>I disagree.
>>>>>I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
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>>>>>time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
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>>>>>be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this country
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>>>>>weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial needs,
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>>>>>obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
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>>>>>it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The dogs
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>>>>>keep um movin.
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>>>>>LLW
>>>>>=20
>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>=20
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
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>>haveone
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>>>>>standard?
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>>>>>>The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
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>signals.
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>>>>>>Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the
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>rest
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>>>>>>of the time to use lower res and have something like an info, weather
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>>>>>>shopping channel.
>>>>>>Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
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>middleclass
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>>>>>>doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants to
>>>>>>come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich
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>guys
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>>>>>>are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
>>>>>>governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter boxes
>>>>>>then they better be free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Al G
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>>>>>>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>>>>>>I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
>>>>>>>640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some will
>>>>>>>favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be popular,others
>>>>>>>obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change.
>>>>>>>Phil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>have one standard?
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Well, the scan rates will not change.....but
>>>>>>>>You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals,
>>>>>>>>Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards
>>>>>>>>1080i,
>>>>>>>>ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P.
>>>>>>>>So no, you'll see 4 standards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Damon Brunger
>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Al L wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
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>standard?
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>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard?
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>>>>>>>>>>>I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
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>>>>>>>>system,and only
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>>>>>>>>>>>one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
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- [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have onestandard ?
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  - From: John Mielke
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