Please note that the Line Earth Loop Impedence is measured from the origin of the supply. The LELI of a cable run is governed by the circuit protection device operating in 5 seconds. The cable calculations for the initial design of a particular cable run of the system should be based upon the calculations for the LV cable only. From my calculations based upon the manufacteurs Data sheet for 16 x 1.5 sq mm cable which is used by Nottingham City Council the maximum length for a this cable is 180 mts which requires a maximum LELI of 4.58 ohms. This is protected by the 10 amp BS 88 controller lamp switch card fuse which requires 31 amps to disconnect the circuit witin 5 seconds.Please check with your controller manufacteur for the rating and type of protective device which protects your cable runs from the controller. It should be noted that many of the cable runs have an ELV cable running along side of the LV cable thus putting the two CPC (circuit protective conductor) i.e. steel wire armouring, in parallel thus giving a lower LELI. The ELV cable might not take the same route to the poles as the LV cable. Therefore care should be taken in what is the true LELI of the cable run. With regards to corrosion on the swa of the cable it is in the codes of practise for the installation of cables that any outer sheathing which is removed for gland termination should be made good with equivelent materials to prevent corrosion. If you are installing cable runs in excess of the 180 mts your options might be has follows:- 1.) Increase the size of cable to suit your circuit calculations for your cable run. i.e R1 phase conductor and R2 CPC cross sectional area (csa) 2.) Increase R2 by the means of an additional CPC run in parallel with the LV cable CPC along its length. The increase in the size of cable and additional R2 is determined by circuit calculation. Tom.Friend(at)nottinghamcity.gov.uk -----Original Message----- From: "Probert, Norman (Environmental Services)" <NProbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:25:15 +0100 Subject: [TCUG] Installation Earthing > > We have been looking into providing better earth continuity at > installations, we believe that the existing method using the armouring > is no > longer sufficient and can lead to high readings therefore a separate > 10mm > earth conductor should be used from each pole. There are two options > either > build this into the existing cable or install a separate armoured cable > containing earth only. 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