Ah, the dreaded Split window vs Bay window bus problem. I said way early in
this discussion that I could speak only about Splits. Let this be a lesson
to the little squirts among us: Aside from the upright 1600 engine, there
are almost no shared technology. Hell, the Split almost doesn't have any
technology.
I am surprised that Wolfgang or anybody doesn't make dropped spindles for
the Bay, but I believe what Dan says, not because he is sooo good looking,
but because he is KING OF THE FAT CHICKS!
Ya'll are correct FOR SPLIT BUSES!
I know Bus Boys sell NO DROP SPINDLES! ( they will sell you a adjuster or a adjustable beam)
Wolfgang does not sell BAY BUS drop spindles.
Franklins is the only place in the US I have found that sell drop spindles for BAYWINDOW buses, and the widen the track 3 inches or more.
On Oct 26, 2005, at 7:02 PM, singlecabboy wrote:
I used the wilfgang int drop spindles in the front and their spring plate kit in the rear ,just like Denis did, on the Wolfgang spindles they do it in a way that it doesn't effect the way your shocks work or spread your wheels out in furthure , niether mine or Denises bus 's have a narrowed beam ,I think people do that to get bigger tires or sumin under there , I'M not sure about anybody elses stuff but these were a bolt on and go deal ,I CALLED bOB BEFORE i wrote this but he said the spindles were dead on what the stock with would have been
--- Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
You CAN lower a bus this way, I would not recommend it. You can lower the rear like we have been discussing here, It will only ruin the camber (cause the tires to wear out quick) eat the CV joints, put the weight of the bus on the wrong part of the springs arc and make it handle funky.
As far as lowering the front the way you are talking about DON'T! It will be low, but not safe.
If you spend the money on drop spindles, don't forget that the spindles make the front track wider by 3 inches or more. The only way to overcome this is by narrowing the beam (not cheap)
I have spent a bunch of time looking at all the different ways to lower a bay. I have come to the conclusion to NOT lower Homer. The only way I would consider doing it would be with the stuff from:
http://www.bus-boys.com/
And it is not cheap!
Get the heater working first..........
On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Brian Denning wrote:
so then adjusting the torsion bars is then
something that could be
done in order to lower your bus as well correct?
what about the
front? i have seen where it is given step by step
on how to do it
by adjusting the torsion bars and relocating the
steering box.
would that be a good way of doing it? basically i
only want like a
3 inch on the back and maybe 3.5 to 4 inches in
the front. or
should i opt for drop spindles on the front.
basically i am trying
to kinda lower it in as cheep a way as possible
but i want it to
be safe. i know that this is discussing raising
but i am looking
into lowering. sorry about hacking the topic.
From: Sammie Smith <slsmith@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:42:23 -0500
Denis: As in most things in life, it depends. I have
done this process
many times on both swing axle and IRS VWs. Did
it a couple of
months ago on my panel van to reverse some
idiot's rat rod
lowering job they had done to it. Simple and
took about 1 hour
total time on each side (2 hours total). BUT! I
have also gotten
into ones where it wasn't simple and everything
that could go
wrong did in fact go wrong. Example: Worked
once all day long on
one side trying to get it right. Point: It can
be simple; but it
can also run into problems, particularly if
you've never done one
before. Sammie
At 12:16 PM 10/26/2005, you wrote:
Again, I only know about Splitty tech, but
raising or lowering
your bus by removing the springplates and
re-installing them at a
different angle is not really that hard to do. I
would say that
the hardest thing is disconnecting and
reconnecting the shocks.
Do not fear.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lonnie
Bergman"
<bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
I read the three posts to the typeII list Dan
sent links to and
learned a lot. And after thinking about switching torsion
bars, figured
that could end up to be a very bad thing.
Shirley, I'm pretty sure the front stabilizer bar from a
68 is the same.
I have a front stabilizer bar from a 71 hanging on the
fence by garage if
you want it.
Lonnie
-----Original Message----- From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Sammie Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:34 AM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
A lot. One spline movement is probably way too
much. On a
swing axle one spline on the outer probably increases height
of bus by 2" or
more and increases camber probably 10 degrees. Don't
switch bars.
Sammie
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