wagenswest.com,is anybody listening,ifeel like charley brown....... -----Original Message----- From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dan Martin Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:21 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff Ya'll are correct FOR SPLIT BUSES! I know Bus Boys sell NO DROP SPINDLES! ( they will sell you a adjuster or a adjustable beam) Wolfgang does not sell BAY BUS drop spindles. Franklins is the only place in the US I have found that sell drop spindles for BAYWINDOW buses, and the widen the track 3 inches or more. On Oct 26, 2005, at 7:02 PM, singlecabboy wrote: > I used the wilfgang int drop spindles in the front and > their spring plate kit in the rear ,just like Denis > did, on the Wolfgang spindles they do it in a way that > it doesn't effect the way your shocks work or spread > your wheels out in furthure , niether mine or Denises > bus 's have a narrowed beam ,I think people do that to > get bigger tires or sumin under there , I'M not sure > about anybody elses stuff but these were a bolt on and > go deal ,I CALLED bOB BEFORE i wrote this but he said > the spindles were dead on what the stock with would > have been > > --- Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> You CAN lower a bus this way, I would not recommend >> it. >> You can lower the rear like we have been discussing >> here, It will >> only ruin the camber (cause the tires to wear out >> quick) eat the CV >> joints, put the weight of the bus on the wrong part >> of the springs >> arc and make it handle funky. >> >> As far as lowering the front the way you are talking >> about DON'T! >> It will be low, but not safe. >> >> If you spend the money on drop spindles, don't >> forget that the >> spindles make the front track wider by 3 inches or >> more. >> The only way to overcome this is by narrowing the >> beam (not cheap) >> >> I have spent a bunch of time looking at all the >> different ways to >> lower a bay. >> I have come to the conclusion to NOT lower Homer. >> The only way I would consider doing it would be with >> the stuff from: >> >> http://www.bus-boys.com/ >> >> And it is not cheap! >> >> Get the heater working first.......... >> >> On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Brian Denning wrote: >> >> >>> so then adjusting the torsion bars is then >>> >> something that could be >> >>> done in order to lower your bus as well correct? >>> >> what about the >> >>> front? i have seen where it is given step by step >>> >> on how to do it >> >>> by adjusting the torsion bars and relocating the >>> >> steering box. >> >>> would that be a good way of doing it? basically i >>> >> only want like a >> >>> 3 inch on the back and maybe 3.5 to 4 inches in >>> >> the front. or >> >>> should i opt for drop spindles on the front. >>> >> basically i am trying >> >>> to kinda lower it in as cheep a way as possible >>> >> but i want it to >> >>> be safe. i know that this is discussing raising >>> >> but i am looking >> >>> into lowering. sorry about hacking the topic. >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Sammie Smith <slsmith@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> Reply-To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff >>>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:42:23 -0500 >>>> >>>> Denis: >>>> As in most things in life, it depends. I have >>>> >> done this process >> >>>> many times on both swing axle and IRS VWs. Did >>>> >> it a couple of >> >>>> months ago on my panel van to reverse some >>>> >> idiot's rat rod >> >>>> lowering job they had done to it. Simple and >>>> >> took about 1 hour >> >>>> total time on each side (2 hours total). BUT! I >>>> >> have also gotten >> >>>> into ones where it wasn't simple and everything >>>> >> that could go >> >>>> wrong did in fact go wrong. Example: Worked >>>> >> once all day long on >> >>>> one side trying to get it right. Point: It can >>>> >> be simple; but it >> >>>> can also run into problems, particularly if >>>> >> you've never done one >> >>>> before. >>>> Sammie >>>> >>>> At 12:16 PM 10/26/2005, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Again, I only know about Splitty tech, but >>>>> >> raising or lowering >> >>>>> your bus by removing the springplates and >>>>> >> re-installing them at a >> >>>>> different angle is not really that hard to do. I >>>>> >> would say that >> >>>>> the hardest thing is disconnecting and >>>>> >> reconnecting the shocks. >> >>>>> Do not fear. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lonnie >>>>> >> Bergman" >> >>>>> <bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:12 AM >>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I read the three posts to the typeII list Dan >>>>>> >> sent links to and >> >>>>>> learned a >>>>>> lot. And after thinking about switching torsion >>>>>> >> bars, figured >> >>>>>> that could end >>>>>> up to be a very bad thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shirley, >>>>>> I'm pretty sure the front stabilizer bar from a >>>>>> >> 68 is the same. >> >>>>>> I have a >>>>>> front stabilizer bar from a 71 hanging on the >>>>>> >> fence by garage if >> >>>>>> you want >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >> [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> >>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>> Of Sammie Smith >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:34 AM >>>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff >>>>>> >>>>>> A lot. One spline movement is probably way too >>>>>> >> much. On a >> >>>>>> swing axle one >>>>>> spline on the outer probably increases height >>>>>> >> of bus by 2" or >> >>>>>> more and >>>>>> increases camber probably 10 degrees. Don't >>>>>> >> switch bars. >> >>>>>> Sammie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >>> FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – >>> >> get it now! http:// >> >>> >>> >> >> > toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > Paul Smith > www.23window.com/thezone > H.B.B > T.C.B. > >