[tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
- From: "Aguirre, Adan" <AAguirre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:38:58 -0500
wagenswest.com does do phat chick frt end stuff,narrowed beams ,dropped
spindles,airbeams,rearair suspesion,irs ,all for busses
-----Original Message-----
From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Denis Dodson
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:40 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
Ah, the dreaded Split window vs Bay window bus problem. I said way early in
this discussion that I could speak only about Splits. Let this be a lesson
to the little squirts among us: Aside from the upright 1600 engine, there
are almost no shared technology. Hell, the Split almost doesn't have any
technology.
I am surprised that Wolfgang or anybody doesn't make dropped spindles for
the Bay, but I believe what Dan says, not because he is sooo good looking,
but because he is KING OF THE FAT CHICKS!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Martin" <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>
To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:20 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
> Ya'll are correct FOR SPLIT BUSES!
> I know Bus Boys sell NO DROP SPINDLES! ( they will sell you a adjuster or
> a adjustable beam)
> Wolfgang does not sell BAY BUS drop spindles.
> Franklins is the only place in the US I have found that sell drop
> spindles for BAYWINDOW buses, and the widen the track 3 inches or more.
>
> On Oct 26, 2005, at 7:02 PM, singlecabboy wrote:
>
>> I used the wilfgang int drop spindles in the front and
>> their spring plate kit in the rear ,just like Denis
>> did, on the Wolfgang spindles they do it in a way that
>> it doesn't effect the way your shocks work or spread
>> your wheels out in furthure , niether mine or Denises
>> bus 's have a narrowed beam ,I think people do that to
>> get bigger tires or sumin under there , I'M not sure
>> about anybody elses stuff but these were a bolt on and
>> go deal ,I CALLED bOB BEFORE i wrote this but he said
>> the spindles were dead on what the stock with would
>> have been
>>
>> --- Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You CAN lower a bus this way, I would not recommend
>>> it.
>>> You can lower the rear like we have been discussing
>>> here, It will
>>> only ruin the camber (cause the tires to wear out
>>> quick) eat the CV
>>> joints, put the weight of the bus on the wrong part
>>> of the springs
>>> arc and make it handle funky.
>>>
>>> As far as lowering the front the way you are talking
>>> about DON'T!
>>> It will be low, but not safe.
>>>
>>> If you spend the money on drop spindles, don't
>>> forget that the
>>> spindles make the front track wider by 3 inches or
>>> more.
>>> The only way to overcome this is by narrowing the
>>> beam (not cheap)
>>>
>>> I have spent a bunch of time looking at all the
>>> different ways to
>>> lower a bay.
>>> I have come to the conclusion to NOT lower Homer.
>>> The only way I would consider doing it would be with
>>> the stuff from:
>>>
>>> http://www.bus-boys.com/
>>>
>>> And it is not cheap!
>>>
>>> Get the heater working first..........
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Brian Denning wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> so then adjusting the torsion bars is then
>>>>
>>> something that could be
>>>
>>>> done in order to lower your bus as well correct?
>>>>
>>> what about the
>>>
>>>> front? i have seen where it is given step by step
>>>>
>>> on how to do it
>>>
>>>> by adjusting the torsion bars and relocating the
>>>>
>>> steering box.
>>>
>>>> would that be a good way of doing it? basically i
>>>>
>>> only want like a
>>>
>>>> 3 inch on the back and maybe 3.5 to 4 inches in
>>>>
>>> the front. or
>>>
>>>> should i opt for drop spindles on the front.
>>>>
>>> basically i am trying
>>>
>>>> to kinda lower it in as cheep a way as possible
>>>>
>>> but i want it to
>>>
>>>> be safe. i know that this is discussing raising
>>>>
>>> but i am looking
>>>
>>>> into lowering. sorry about hacking the topic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Sammie Smith <slsmith@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Reply-To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:42:23 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>> Denis:
>>>>> As in most things in life, it depends. I have
>>>>>
>>> done this process
>>>
>>>>> many times on both swing axle and IRS VWs. Did
>>>>>
>>> it a couple of
>>>
>>>>> months ago on my panel van to reverse some
>>>>>
>>> idiot's rat rod
>>>
>>>>> lowering job they had done to it. Simple and
>>>>>
>>> took about 1 hour
>>>
>>>>> total time on each side (2 hours total). BUT! I
>>>>>
>>> have also gotten
>>>
>>>>> into ones where it wasn't simple and everything
>>>>>
>>> that could go
>>>
>>>>> wrong did in fact go wrong. Example: Worked
>>>>>
>>> once all day long on
>>>
>>>>> one side trying to get it right. Point: It can
>>>>>
>>> be simple; but it
>>>
>>>>> can also run into problems, particularly if
>>>>>
>>> you've never done one
>>>
>>>>> before.
>>>>> Sammie
>>>>>
>>>>> At 12:16 PM 10/26/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, I only know about Splitty tech, but
>>>>>>
>>> raising or lowering
>>>
>>>>>> your bus by removing the springplates and
>>>>>>
>>> re-installing them at a
>>>
>>>>>> different angle is not really that hard to do. I
>>>>>>
>>> would say that
>>>
>>>>>> the hardest thing is disconnecting and
>>>>>>
>>> reconnecting the shocks.
>>>
>>>>>> Do not fear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lonnie
>>>>>>
>>> Bergman"
>>>
>>>>>> <bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:12 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read the three posts to the typeII list Dan
>>>>>>>
>>> sent links to and
>>>
>>>>>>> learned a
>>>>>>> lot. And after thinking about switching torsion
>>>>>>>
>>> bars, figured
>>>
>>>>>>> that could end
>>>>>>> up to be a very bad thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shirley,
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure the front stabilizer bar from a
>>>>>>>
>>> 68 is the same.
>>>
>>>>>>> I have a
>>>>>>> front stabilizer bar from a 71 hanging on the
>>>>>>>
>>> fence by garage if
>>>
>>>>>>> you want
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>> [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>
>>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Sammie Smith
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:34 AM
>>>>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: tecnical stuff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot. One spline movement is probably way too
>>>>>>>
>>> much. On a
>>>
>>>>>>> swing axle one
>>>>>>> spline on the outer probably increases height
>>>>>>>
>>> of bus by 2" or
>>>
>>>>>>> more and
>>>>>>> increases camber probably 10 degrees. Don't
>>>>>>>
>>> switch bars.
>>>
>>>>>>> Sammie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Paul Smith
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