Hi Walter, The N85 is easy to use. The keyboard is flat yes, but there are two distinctive bumps on the 5 key. And yes, I am total. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Monday 6 July 2009 15:04 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Update on the N85 Hi Barbara. I called them back this morning and told them I had been mislead and I wasn't happy. Before I say much more I was in the Voedafone store this morning and got a feel of the 6210 and it was very compact and very small in comparison to the 95 which sometimes feels like a Fischer price product. The keypad on the 6210 is very similar to the 6680 but smaller but the keys are distinctive. The only thing that is off putting is the lack of a dedicated 3.5 jack socket but I think I understand their reasoning as the phone is so slimline a huge 3.5 jack socket would look a bit strange. Nonetheless, if I can get an adaptor then I'll keep the phone. The 85 according to the guy on the phone yesterday, the guy who gave me wrong info said the 85's keypad is even more difficult to use than the 96 as it is much more flush and there isn't a great deal to help orientate you on the keypad. In the store I asked the guy there about the keypad and he looked at the 96 and said the 85's keypad is much less distingtive and little to indicate where the numbers are. If anyone on this list who is total and has an 85 I would be happy to hear from you and get your opinion as to the keypad. Now, It seems when you place an order for a phone or establish a new contract, the operators only have 1 hour to cancel. If that isn't done with in that time it is a lot simpler to get the phone and then send it back which I will do if I can't get an adaptor. It isn't the first time I've been given duff info from Voedafone. The store here has the 85 in stock but not on display. I didn't really have a lot of time but I think if I had asked for a look, they would have said no. They are not very helpful at times. Walter. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 06 July 2009 14:24 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Update on the N85 Walter, this is just typical of my experience with Vodafone. Give you wrong info and then you have to constantly ring back to have it confirmed or rejected. I think on the basis of them giving you false information they should change the deal for you to include the N85 rather than the 6210 if this is the phone you prefered. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Update on the N85 > Hi folks. OK. Here we go. in view of what some were saying yesterday I > went to the Voedafone store this morning. I asked about the N85 and if it > had a touch screen element. The guy there said no it hasn't. When I got > home I called Voedafone and told them what I was told yesterday by there > colleague. The guy I spoke to on the phone this morning said it did have > a > touch screen but when I told him what I was told on this list last night > and > what the store assistant told me this morning he disappeared for a few > minutes and came back and told me that it didn't have a touch screen > element > but on the reviews and on the screen image he had it looked as if it had. > I'm not very pleased as I got a new contract based on what the guy told me > yesterday. I would be happy to keep the 6210 but I have felt it in the > store this morning and it felt really nice but has the Nokia headphone > socket and not the standard one. If I can find an adaptor to convert the > socket to a standard socket then I would keep it but if I can't then I'll > send it back. I want the option to use high quality ear phones with my > phone and not the bog standard type and if they got damaged I would be > stuck > and not be able to use the phone's player other than via the mono speaker. > Does anyone know where I can get such an adaptor? and soon as I have only > 7 > days from Wednesday to find one. Walter. > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4219 (20090705) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > >